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Old 11-17-2004, 06:23 PM   #91
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"She is a kid for Christ's sake, what are you gonna do?"



She's 17, right? Put her in gymnastics training for a year & then send her to jungkvist!
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Old 11-18-2004, 02:44 AM   #92
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Sorry, 18's the cut-off. Whaddaya think I am, a pervert!
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Old 11-18-2004, 03:15 AM   #93
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If you step back, and look at many of the postings, something becomes apparent; I mean, other than the fact that we arenÂ’t worth a damn, at staying on-topic.



Motorcyclists, unlike a good deal of the Public, are willing to take responsibility for their actions, and accept the risks of their sportÂ…Sometimes to our own disadvantage.



IÂ’m not going to belabor this point, but it is illuminating; especially when you consider how vulnerable we are, and how marginal we have become, as a group.



Just something to think about.

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Old 11-18-2004, 03:42 AM   #94
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I think it's more of a split--in bike vs. car/SUV/truck crashes, I often see the "hang the driver" or "sue 'em" sentiment echoed, often without regard to the factors that actually contributed to the crash. It's part of the not-my-responsibility attitude that's crept into American society and which has fueled the upsurge in lawsuits over the past couple of decades.



I'd admit that perhaps not every collision is avoidable, but there are many, many instances where the dead rider had a role in his demise.



For some interesting reading that has a real impact on motorcycle safety, I'd suggest that every motorcyclist who's interested in living a long life look at the studies on inattentional blindness. The Visual Cognition Lab at the University of Illinois has done some interesting research on the subject: http://viscog.beckman.uiuc.edu/djs_lab/ .
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Old 11-18-2004, 03:43 AM   #95
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All one has to do to create a common sense estimate of what occured is look at the picture and assimilate the facts that have been presented. We all know as motorcycle riders what happens when somebody goes for the asphalt at 60 mph. They do not fly 500 feet through the air, unless some act of gravity (high side, endo, etc.) throws the top of their bike in the air like a catapult, making it possible to achieve such an elevation to acquire said distance, but even then, 75% of the distance achieved is made skidding on the ground most times. Lets say that a truck traveling at 85 mph struck a moving motorcycle traveling at 60 mph. Now go outside and have the same truck hit you from behind at 25 mph (the differential) and see how far you travel without sitting on 800 lbs of hog. You might travel 20 feet at the most. Based on the picture, the tail of the bike was wedged between the pavement and the truck, so there was no chance of any catapult action and it would have been more likely that the biker may have been slammed into the front of the truck upon impact, in which case, he would have fallen to the pavement and slid about 100+ feet once the driver hit the brakes, barring any obstructions, on coming traffic, etc. Maybe if the truck had brakes that could have stopped it from 85 mph to 0 mph in 1/4 second, you might have created enough inertia to slingshot the, clinging for dear life, rider up and foward, but, we all know, or should know, that is neither likely or possible for any cage on the road today. Would it not be more plausible if a truck traveling 85 mph struck a man sitting still on a motorcycle, sending him flying 500 feet through the air and wedging over half of a Harley Davidson under his truck? The moment of inertia on both man and bike would be much more in that case... Just a thought.
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Old 11-18-2004, 08:17 AM   #96
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Might as well. Could we use idiot boy's blood though? VWW
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Old 11-18-2004, 08:45 AM   #97
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well sure... why else do ya think I specified a YEAR of gymnastics training?



I think this ***** through carefully before I post!
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Old 11-18-2004, 12:42 PM   #98
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I have to agree, something is wrong with this story. Couldn't get fingerprints? He was riding without gloves?
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Old 11-18-2004, 05:03 PM   #99
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It's amazing how disconnected from reality people are. ItÂ’s as if folks are riding around with TV remotes, and they think that they can just change the channel when an accident is about to occur. I once saw a girl applying mascara, while merging onto the Washington Beltway, during Friday rush hour. I swear, if I saw a giant, pink bunny, screwing an ostrich, I wouldnÂ’t have been more shocked. She didnÂ’t have a clue that she was one brake application away from performing a lobotomy on herself. But, if she got into a wreck, sheÂ’d probably have tried to sue the Make Up manufacturer. Sometimes I honestly wish serial killers would develop a sense of social responsibility and start culling the herd.



As far as lawsuits go, there are just too many lawyers practicing assembly line law. Every year, countless universities turn out countless new lawyers and most of them seem to care more about money than the law. I always thought that being a lawyer was like being given a sacred trust. Some of the lawyers, I know, just think itÂ’s a means to an end: Money, Coke and Bl@w Jobs from the courthouse secretaries. So much for a, once, noble profession.

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Old 11-18-2004, 05:08 PM   #100
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Thanks for the consideration...Knew I was gonna regret posting that joke.
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