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Old 01-19-2004, 04:17 PM   #1
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I haven't even seen the movie, but the trailers are so pathetic there seems little point. Stoppies and 360's on top of a high speed train? Drop offs from said train at speed onto railroad tracks... with sportbike suspension?



If I want to see a good motorcycle movie, I'll just throw on my re-mastered edition DVD of 'The Great Escape'. At least the stunts are real and the actor who did most of the riding knew how.
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Old 01-19-2004, 04:51 PM   #2
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In the new FHM magazine, there is a small segment on the Y2K turbine bike and a sidebar with Ice Cube. I don't know if the reporter misunderstood him but it slipped the fact check since he is commenting on the Triumph 959 he rode in the movie. The last Triumph I owned was a 955 and it was pretty memorable. That said enuf4me.
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Old 01-19-2004, 05:40 PM   #3
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Luckily, we won't be cursed with having this movie in the theaters for long. When I came out of Return of the King this weekend, I saw a group of people leaving Torque less then a half an hour after it started.
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:12 PM   #4
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Unfortunately I think this is the experience we are going to get from Hollywood for a long time, whether it is motorcycles, cars, jet fighters, orcs and elves, etc. Hollywood is enamored with CGI and grossly over-the-top story lines. In my opinion, CGI is doing as much to hurt movies as it is helping them. Does anyone deny the jet fighter scenes in Top Gun blew away the jet fighter scene from Behind enemy lines or Independence Day? Are the car chase scenes in Fast and Furious any better than the scene from Bullet? And an obvious one, are the motorcycle scenes in Torque anywhere close to as good as The Great Escape?



To me none of these are close and it's the CGI that ruined them. Hollywood now has the technology to be outrageously stupid where as before when they relied on real people and vehicles and were bound by the real laws of physics and the need to return the stuntman/woman home relatively healthy. Isn't a professional rider on/in any vehicle exciting enough to watch especially in the context of even an average story? Ronin w/Robert Deniro was an okay movie but the car chase scenes were great. It's the McDonalds effect in everything out of Hollywood has to be Biggie Size. I'm not saying movies need to be based 100% in reality but if it's kept in the 80 percentile of believability we might enjoy movies even like Torque a little more. Instead we can't express enough how silly they come across.



Some movies I think that have good motorcycle and car scenes are:



The Italian Job (I can forgive the MiniÂ’s being so fast and indestructible. At least they were real even if they destroyed 20 or 30 of them to make the movie. They threw in some BeemerÂ’s for us motorcycle fans).



I canÂ’t remember the name but one of the early Jackie Chan movies has some great dirt bike stunts in it. One where the stuntman jumps it on a moving train. You have to see the outtakes to appreciate that one fully.



The second Matrix (The movie was only saved by the Ducati highway chase and the fact that a real stunt woman rode a real motorcycle. I know the scene was doctored up but it was real enough to be a blast to watch.)



On Any Sunday, The Great Escape (dub!), Bullet, Le Mans . McQueen rocked like no one has since.



Girl On A Motorcycle (Campy psychedelic movie but it does have a girl on a motorcycle. And you get to see some vintage bikes before they were vintage. DonÂ’t know about the movie itself though).



And finally can the movie/documentary Faster get here (Chicago) fast enough? Has anyone seen this or know if it is showing to the general public yet?
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:44 PM   #5
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You are all missing it. Hearing you lament this movie's non-stop motorcycling inaccuracies and over-exaggerations is like hearing technical experts critically evaluate "Batman" or "Speed Racer". Or perhaps like having a scholar with a Doctorate in English deplore the grammatical weakness and shaky linguistic foundation of "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure". It was a COMIC STRIP!!! The stunts and scenes weren't supposed to be REAL!!! It was meant to be a high speed, faster than life, cliche ridden (no pun intended) good vs. evil moto-adventure, with a few well-forecast plot turns, and the bad guy getting his ass kicked in the end. If the entire movie didn't convince you of this, the super-nitro-JayLeno-ultra-fast-jetbike-warp speed chase scene near the end was your last big fookin' clue. You go to a movie like this to suspend disbelief, letting the carnival flood your senses while you munch your popcorn and yell, "HIT ME!!!" That's what you pay for. If you went to this movie planning on seeing a motorcycling, documentary-styled, reality show, then you didn't take a very good look at the movie poster now, did you. I suppose you think that the Road Warrior wasn't very realistic either. You're just sad.
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Old 01-19-2004, 07:42 PM   #6
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"I canÂ’t remember the name but one of the early Jackie Chan movies has some great dirt bike stunts in it. One where the stuntman jumps it on a moving train. You have to see the outtakes to appreciate that one fully."



The movie: Supercop aka. Police Story III

If you wanna see good stunts, just pick any jackie chans movie. All real *****, no FX.



The best motorcycle movie in recent years (that I've seen):

Full Throttle

It's a Hong Kong movie, 100% real stunts, road/canyon racing. It's still cheesy, guy meets girl, girl is annoyed by boy's riding habit "It's too dangerous, I don't wanna see you die(in tears). But compared to Biker Boyz or Torque, it's an oscar contender.

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Old 01-19-2004, 08:13 PM   #7
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Yup. You got it. This movie is aimed at a generation raised on video games. This kind of physics-defying action is what they're programmed to expect, nay, demand.



Sadly, though, it appears that this movie fails even the vid-kid's standards for plot and content.
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Old 01-19-2004, 08:47 PM   #8
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Did they use CGI in Road Warrior? I must have missed it.
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Old 01-19-2004, 08:58 PM   #9
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AN' YA'LL ARE JUST A BUNCH A' PUSSIEZ. I CAN DO ALL THAT STUFF I SAW IN THE MOVIE! IN FACT, I'M DOIN' IT RIGHT NOW- VROOOOOM! BWAAAAAAAAH! BWAAAAAAAAAH! BWAAAAAAAAAH! SPROIIIIIIIIIIIG! YAAAAAAAH! KER-BOOOOM! EIEEEEEEEEE!
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Old 01-19-2004, 08:59 PM   #10
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I tried to be good through the entire movie by not pointing out all of the inaccuracies in the movie, but really guys:

1. People talking to each other at full speed with no chatter box or similar equipment?

2. Being able to hear a cell phone while riding

3. Stoppies on a street bike off road

4. The entire train sequence

5. The entire girl fight sequence

6. Riding a turbine bike that fast and not having your unhelmeted face peeled off by wind blast

7. A Triumph TT600 keeping up with 1000's



I could go on, but I fear my hand will cramp. I truly feel that that was 136 minutes out of my life that I will see again, and would desperatly like to have back. I wonder if The Great Escape is for rent at Blockbuster?
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