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Old 03-19-2003, 12:39 PM   #91
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Default Re: Which bike to buy: CBR600F4i or SV650?

Perhaps this is too little, too late, but...

If you decide you like the I-four engine better, you may also want to look at the Kawi 636, which I think is now being called the ZX-6R (not the RR).

Since you won't be racing the disqualifying extra 36cc shouldn't be at issue.

But I remember two tests (one, I think, was Motorcyclist, and the other was RiDE, I believe)

that seemed to conclude that the extra little bit of displacement makes a noticeable difference on the street.

As they say, there is no replacement for displacement. But hey, don't take my word for it, ask the Reading Rainbow.
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Old 03-19-2003, 12:59 PM   #92
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Default Re: Rebuttal 600 Supersports are the best buy in motorcyling.

Amen, if I don't feel like shifting I'll drive my truck, it's an automatic..., and air conditioning, stereo, cruise control, bucket seats, cup holders, extra power outlets, power locks and windows, airbags, and a bunch of other stuff that I-4's and twins don't have. So who is going to be the first smart-a$$ to point out that there $18K+ that have all of that stuff!?!
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Old 03-19-2003, 01:22 PM   #93
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Default Re: Which bike to buy: CBR600F4i or SV650?

thanks for the suggestion, but I've already considered the Kawi and every other 600-750 bike in production. I sat on the Kawi and it's just too extreme a position for me...same with the R6 and others.



For me, it's between the CBR or SVS. And I would have done the test ride this afternoon if only this damn rain would let up....
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Old 03-19-2003, 01:41 PM   #94
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Default Re: thanks again to all

I wanted a sport tourer. Something that I could have a longer range on. My buddy hits reserve at 150'ish and my ducati was around there. I am still breaking in the ST but have been around 190 when the light comes on and the fuel gauge shows it in the red. If I would have stayed with a true sports bike I would have probably ended up on a 954 (about the same ergos as the F4), but wanted something better for touring.
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Old 03-19-2003, 02:37 PM   #95
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Default Re: Which bike to buy: CBR600F4i or SV650?

"as much pull as a sv, after 4k"



This is incorrect. It has as much pull as an SV only after 8K.



From Cpt. Woop-ass's post above:



Torque/HP



RPM SV650 CBR600F4i YZF600R

4000 40/30 28/20 35/25

5000 40/37 28/28 35/30

6000 42/45 33/35 35/40

7000 45/58 36/48 42/58

8000 42/65 40/60 40/62

9000 38/68 40/68 45/75



I believe you posted previously that at 9K anything above 1st gear is a ticket. So it seems that the SV is the better 'real-world' ride. (track days excluded)
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Old 03-19-2003, 05:22 PM   #96
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Default Re: good memory...and yes...

In that case you are definitely better off with the SV. I have a naked model with a Givi headlight mounted fairing, and you definitely feel it when you go fast. I actually prefer this to the fully faired bikes, I like the feeling of the wind.



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Old 03-19-2003, 08:36 PM   #97
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Default 600s are overbuilt not on the edge Grandpa

Either you are lying or have sickest Ninja, or weigh 400 lbs. Seriously when is the last time you were on a 600. Be honest? If I kept my bike reved up like you say I would be jail for going 130 in a 60 zone. I only get it reved up on my favorite twisty. Never need to on the freeway.



600s are overbuilt for street not built on the edge. My friend who races a CBR 900 read your post and laughed. How come Tommy Haydens 636 is smoking 750s? It is because 600s are much more powerful than when you were a kid. Where else can you get state of art technology for such a low cost.
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Old 03-19-2003, 08:40 PM   #98
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Default Re: Rebuttal 600 Supersports are the best buy in motorcyling.

"600 above 9k in any gear other than 1st = speeding ticket, above 9k in anything higher than 2nd = taking the bus to " Same here. Excellent Point.
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Old 03-20-2003, 03:25 AM   #99
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Default Re: Which bike to buy: CBR600F4i or SV650?

Those dyno numbers were not only taken on different days, but different years, probably on different dynometers. Instead of reading something out of a magazine, I've actually ridden both, and I stand by my statement.
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Old 03-20-2003, 03:30 AM   #100
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Default Re: Which bike to buy: CBR600F4i or SV650?

Think about it, if I have to rev that high to get my speeding ticket, but an sv has more torque and hp at a lower rpm (by your dyno chart), I'll still be getting the speeding ticket, just faster.
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