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Old 02-12-2003, 11:56 AM   #31
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Dont scoff!I'm(barely)old enough to remember the reaction to the first Japanese imports.Nobody thought theyd ever compete in the big bike world with HD and theBrits.I also remember when we grudgingly admitted the Japanese made nice economy cars but couldnt compete in the luxury car market.I fully expect the Chinese to be a force in the full size bike market in the next 10 years......though my perceptions are suspect,I was one who thought the japanese could only make small bikes and cars.
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Old 02-12-2003, 12:50 PM   #32
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The no. 1 question on my mind is...



Where is the Highwayman on this? If any bikes count as "Asian Atrocity Cycles", these do.
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Old 02-12-2003, 05:00 PM   #33
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I'll take 2 of #7, 1 of #38 , some General Tso's chicken and a quart of egg drop soup.
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Old 02-12-2003, 07:35 PM   #34
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Hey! Don't use these crappy bikes as evidence of how lousy socialism is. Fist of all, China isn't socialist (though they love to call themselves that), it's a state-run capitalist state. Secondly, no 3rd world country has ever produced a decent motorcycle, regardless, of their political ideology.



Go ahead and be commie-phobic if you wanna' be, but please find a more suitable example to make your point next time!
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Old 02-12-2003, 08:00 PM   #35
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I've ridden a Chongqing. Not too bad. A mate and I toured around Beijing last summer on a pair of them. You can buy them used in Beijing for next to nothing.



I've seen one or two of them imported into Korea. They have new lights, exhaust and signals, so as to meet Korean safety/emission standards.



Top speed on the 750 cc Chongqing is about 80 kph. The sidecar is a blast, and great for carrying luggage. The suspension is thick, stong and not very subtle, but great for northern Chinese roads.



I suppose it would be something like a Ural, only better: 12 volt electrics, improved gauge cluster, windshield, etc.





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Old 02-13-2003, 03:27 AM   #36
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i wonder if the Hanlon's know about this?
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Old 02-13-2003, 04:06 AM   #37
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Uhh, Uhh, Uhh, you said ruminate, Uhh, Uhh, Uhh.



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Old 02-13-2003, 05:01 AM   #38
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Call me when the superyotard races start.
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Old 02-13-2003, 05:50 AM   #39
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I think MO should sell them through the web site.
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Old 02-13-2003, 05:54 AM   #40
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Yes. Some of the 125cc engines are putting out like 12 hp, enough to get the bikes up into the fifties and to stay with traffic in town. Cheap practical fun transportation, reasonably clean 4-stroke engines. And they'll be able to cream the Japanese on price until Chinese labor starts getting paid market wages.
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