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Old 02-10-2003, 06:10 AM   #21
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You're probably right, I keep mistakenly thinking that increased government power = tyranny. I keep forgetting that OUR elected officials are different. They are no less than omniscient purveyors of benevolence, making sure we live our lives in the appropriate manner.
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Old 02-10-2003, 06:13 AM   #22
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It's a car without the ammenities and the safety, I would not drive that thing on a freeway if it was free, but $14.000? What a joke.
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Old 02-10-2003, 06:22 AM   #23
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The same tree huggers are also opposed to fuel burning power plants. Hydro-electric power generation seems pretty good but granola munchers are whining about some spotted river toad that lost its home due to damn building. And those darn wind mills, ohh, what an eyesore... How about an electric eel farm, PETA fanatics welcome.
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Old 02-10-2003, 06:24 AM   #24
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To chime in on the question: Yes. If the state says it's a motorcycle that's what it is. The only thing that causes the question is the hardtop.



The bigger question that came from the article came after reading the following: "...can the vehicles be operated without insurance, also like other motorcycles?"



What the He11?!? There's the "social burden" and it's sponsored by Washington State!



I understand where off-road bikes wouldnÂ’t require insurance but to ride in traffic without it is true insanity.



I could keep going but I would like to hear from the folks in Washington. Is it true that insurance is not required to operate a motorcycle on the street?



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Old 02-10-2003, 06:26 AM   #25
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Yes, John McCain is a "live and let live" type, unless it's his senate seat that's in question. In that case he would like to throw off the manacles of the Constitution and rely upon the Incumbent Protection Act to silence critics 60 days before an election, ensuring his continued (bad) service in the Senate.



Now I am looney because I tote a Bible, appreciate John Ashcroft's respect for the law (a concept that was wholly alien to his predecessor and her boss), and because I think people have the right to educate their children in whatever way they see fit? Who here is the real social libertarian? Furthermore, excepting the attempted Ashcroft insult, you accurately describe 90% of the founding fathers.



While you initially betrayed your stripes as an intellectual midget with the whole JohnnyB thing, I thought perhaps you learned from that incident. Now I know for sure which bin to throw your comments in from now on.
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Old 02-10-2003, 06:45 AM   #26
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That's no more a motorcycle than a Smart Car is. Ok, so it has 3 wheels, but come on now - it has a steering wheel, end of story.



As for electric vehicles - I'd gladly try out one of those prototype Aprilia Mojito FC fuel cell-powered scooters (a blazing 3 kW fuel cell stack to give you a class-leading 4 hp). Really, I'm waiting for the 2015 (maybe 2020?) Mille H2O. Knowing Honda, however, they'll probably have a fuel cell bike out even sooner, and somehow it will win 14 out of 16 MotoGP races, despite the rest of the field running gasoline engines. Alright, alright, so maybe that won't happen...
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Old 02-10-2003, 06:57 AM   #27
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If that's a motorcycle, Harley's are fairly priced.
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Old 02-10-2003, 07:08 AM   #28
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Having designed and built a solar electric system for one of my homes I am intimately familiar with the limitations of lead acid batteries. The bank of batteries in my system weighs approximaetly one ton and will not power a small air conditioner for a day without reaching damagingly low depths of discharge. The whole idea of electric vehicles should be used as the poster child for stopping all government programs and letting private enterprise answer market demands. VWW
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Old 02-10-2003, 07:17 AM   #29
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Yes it's an enclosed motorcycle, but until it's range is increased to 100 miles on a charge it's not going to appeal to very many people. If it could go 100 miles at 60 mph I would consider it.
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Old 02-10-2003, 07:25 AM   #30
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Abe, While I usually agree with you, and certainly do about that socialist Jhon McCain, I belive your faith in John Ashcroft as a champion of our constitution is sadly misplaced.

His willingness to embrace both the "Patriot" act, and the continued war on some drugs is indicative that his lack of commitment to a truely constitutional government is on par with that of his grotesque predecessor, Janet Reno. VWW
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