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Old 01-17-2003, 07:30 AM   #11
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Default Cell phones aren't the only road hazard

There is a new and seemingly endless wave of driver distractions being peddled by auto and electronics companies. Cell phones, GPS and navigation systems, DVD players, connections for video game systems, even normal automotive systems like stereos and climate control are now being controlled by video screens that, by their very nature, require drives to take their eyes off the road to do something as simple as change the radio station. Remember, just a few years ago, Detroit auto manufacturers were showing cars that had systems for mobile internet access. Something must be done about this.



This, of course, has the potential to turn into another personal rights vs. social responsibility debate like the SUV battle, but I think we, as motorcyclists, can all agree that the oncoming rush of driver distraction poses a major threat to everyone on the road, especially us.



The auto manufacturers' solution, of course, is that we should all crive bigger cars to be safe. But I digress...



Most troubling about this situation: auto manufacturers will not stop putting things into their cars for which they can charge a lot of money. Legislators are, generally speaking, in the pockets of the auto lobby, so there won't be any real push from capitol hill to limit driver distraction.



How many people - how many motorcyclists - will have to die before action is taken?
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Old 01-17-2003, 07:33 AM   #12
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I agree wholeheartedly with this statement.



Drivers will not start paying attention - to the road or to any new distraction legislation - until they realize their 'right' to drive is in seriously jeopardy if they break the rules.
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Old 01-17-2003, 08:31 AM   #13
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"The auto manufacturers' solution, of course, is that we should all crive bigger cars to be safe. But I digress... "



And, of course, the 'technology as nanny' set insist that vehicles will operate themselves in the future. And then gush about how great that would be. But what do you expect in a society that lets television raise children, where a selling point of certain ISPs is that they filter content so that you don't have to pay any attention to what your kids are doing...
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Old 01-17-2003, 09:06 AM   #14
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Amen, it's nice to hear someone who sees the real problems with kids these days. I agree with you completely that parents need to start doing more parenting, and less buying for their kids.
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Old 01-17-2003, 09:39 AM   #15
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Actually, I see a big difference when using a cell phone. The person in the phone is conversing with someone who is not present in the vehicle, and becoming more detached from the task at hand than the driver chatting with a passenger.
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Old 01-17-2003, 09:54 AM   #16
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Today coming back from the Doctors office a lady in Tahoe (SUV) on a cell phone drifts in my lane without signaling. Almost took my fender off on my Accord. I honk tell her to get off the phone she flips me off. She feels tough in her SUV. I wish the AMA would get behind this. Doesn't NY state have a law on the books now??

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Old 01-17-2003, 09:57 AM   #17
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Excellent Point. "I have had the closest calls while driving in my car. On the bike, my radar screen is much higher and I avoid these people like the plague. " You right on, today s(ee my post) I was in my car almost got clipped, on my bike I would of never been that close to her.

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Old 01-17-2003, 10:21 AM   #18
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I seem to remember that in tokyo restaurants they use a jamming device, to stop the impolite patrons from talking on the phone. Maybe we could tie this in to the radar/lidar detectors, oh wait those distract us from driving also , dang it!
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Old 01-17-2003, 10:42 AM   #19
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The problem of cell phone use in moving vehicles (bikes included) can only get worse as more and more are sold. If you want to read a great rant about this go to cartalk.com and see what the Maliozzi brothers are saying. I am in complete agreement with their view that, except for emergency and police personnel, phone use MUST be banned in all moving vehicles.



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Old 01-17-2003, 10:43 AM   #20
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Brief Story on Killing:



A grand jury has elected to send Tennessee State Sen. Carl O. Koella to trial on a felony charge of leaving the scene of a fatal accident involving AMA member Terry Barnard, overruling an earlier judge's decision that Koella should be charged only with a misdemeanor.



Initially the case was sent to the grand jury as a misdemeanor. The grand jury reviewing the same facts provided by eye witnesses decided that Koella's case would proced to trial as a felony.



According to eyewitness accounts, the accident was caused when the driver of a minivan turned left across the southbound lane of Rt.321 in Blount County near Knoxville. When the van started across the lane the motorcycle sruck the van and then into a car stopped behind it. the driver of the van got out briefly to inspect his vehicle and then got back in and drove away. Eyewitnesses at the scene identified the senator as the driver of the van. If convicted the senator faces one to six years in prison, and a fine of $3000.00. A felony conviction could also result in the senator losing his state senate seat, an office he has held for 24 years.





To conclude, the Senator died before he was convicted, and then the same stretch of highway where he killed Terry Barnard was named after the Senator. Ironic, no?
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