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John Burns should be euthanized. 31 4.57%
Should shut the hell up except about bikes 82 12.09%
Can go off-topic now and then if agree with him 48 7.08%
Can go off-topic only when it involves motorcycles 113 16.67%
I like off-topic stuff and the heated debates 203 29.94%
More off-topic, I don't really even like bikes 12 1.77%
I just had several ****tails. What was the topic? 87 12.83%
My mom could, and should, kick Burnsie's ass 102 15.04%
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Old 10-03-2002, 04:16 AM   #121
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Default Re: And the point is...

I think overall, you do a fairly good job. Everyone likes to read about new bikes. A couple of areas of interest to be would be (1) more how to articles on maintence, bike setup, etc. (2) Rider skills, for city and the track including photos, video, and real experiences.



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Old 10-03-2002, 04:31 AM   #122
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Default Re: Real men ride in the rain. Right Seruzawa

Geez, is the wind blowing again?
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Old 10-03-2002, 05:55 AM   #123
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Default Re: This guy has great ideas

ak,



Nothing wrong with a trak day or two. Their just getting old in my book. So many great places to see and go (and write about) in this country...and Burns is off doing another track day for Cycle World.



Have you read this "free" mag: Friction Zone? Great stuff.



http://www.friction-zone.com/



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Old 10-03-2002, 06:03 AM   #124
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Egan rules! He is the man and understands the "3 bike minimum" rule.



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Old 10-03-2002, 07:31 AM   #125
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Default Re: And the point is...

What I'd like to see?

in order of desire:

Supermotard Shootout

Supermotard Shootout

Supermotard Shootout - get tha picture?

More Breakin' tha Law - what, do you guys need suggestions or somethin?

More pic's of "that jacket" - you know...

More reviews of wierdness and exotica- I get enough 600 shootouts and cruiser reviews from the other mag's - although y'all's perspective is better.

I really enjoyed the one where you all took beaters into the desert - that was y'all wasn't it?



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Ok, suggestions 1, and 6 are fine - here are my comments on the others:

2) why just straight riders? you big hunk of man-love!

3) never read them, but think that they're good for community-building.

4) Ebay, CycleTrader, etc. already do a fine job at this - don't kill yourself providing an extranious service

5) y'all don't have enough content to make filtering worthwhile

6) see #3

7) I love to hate KPaul (ok, so maybe I've read the forums once or twice)

no, in _your_ dreams

9) I already told you!



Thanks for asking!
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Old 10-03-2002, 07:40 AM   #126
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Default Re: And the point is...

I concur. This feature would be excellent, particularly for those with oddball bikes.
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Old 10-03-2002, 09:04 AM   #127
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Three bike minimum??? Could you please elaborate as I may be crossing the line and need some support-sort of an expert witness if you will-to maintain household harmony. There you go, another article idea for MO-"Honey why I should own X number of bikes"



I think if I recall, his idea was really five bikes.

Something for Touring/two up, Sport/Track bike, Vintage, Dirt. I can't recall what the other(s) were but I am short on a couple of the catergories and long on some. I suppose I need the expert guidance. MO please help.



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Old 10-03-2002, 09:22 AM   #128
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Default Re: And the point is...

Philip,



I still miss Cycle, it was far better than anything (at least in English) on the market today.



As far as the Z1000, I don't object to CW covering the bike. What I do object to is a "journalist" writing purple prose comparing a bike I don't think he has even seen, much less ridden, to some of the greatest motorcycles in history. Kawasaki has an advertising department for that, they should pay for adds like everybody else.



Anybody want to bet against Edwards getting an "exclusive first look" at the Z1000 in exchange for that free add? Motorcyclist has been doing this for years, see the huge hype for the Triumph Bonneville and the pages of glowing praise (surprise!) for what seems to be a perfectly nice but hardly exceptional bike.



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Old 10-03-2002, 09:27 AM   #129
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Default 3 Bikes

Peter Egan came up with the "3 Bike Rule," as far as I know, a longtime a go.



1) Dirt bike for offroad fun.



2) Sporty bike for the street.



3) Big comfy rig for out on the highway.



He has been making a living for the last 20 years trying to find the "right combination of bikes."



Sounds good to me!



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Old 10-03-2002, 10:08 AM   #130
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KPaul and Rekord,



Welcome to the real world. I have two pieces of advice, first; keep Longriders post from the CBR Vs. ZZR article (especially the last paragraph) in mind when looking for a bike. I've had pretty serious disagreements with him in the past but I could agree more with that post. I've sold bikes that ran perfectly because they just didn't light my personal fire. I've also had Japanese bikes that blew up three times in twenty thousand miles and Japanese bikes only stopped when the tank was empty.



Second, subscribe to Motorcycle Consumer News. It is not perfect, it is printed on crummy paper, the writing ranges for good to only fair and like other humans the writers can be wrong occasionally. But it is the only print magazine left in the US that tries to cover the whole motorcycling experience. They cover parts prices, maintenance, things like a spectroscopic analysis of oil additives (what is in the $5.99 quart of oil that is not in a $1.29 quart and why should you care?) AND the fun stuff. They accept no advertising and have had campaigns to bring to light manufactures (Honda, BMW, Harley that I can think of off the top of my head) trying to get away with not supporting their products properly. Check them out http://www.mcnews.com/mcnews/.



For whatever my opinion is worth, if you read MO and MCN you'll have a pretty balanced view of motorcycling, racing excepted because neither one does a great job there.



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