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Rob-SV650 · 11-06-2001, 01:53 PM

Nice ride, but what does this mean for the V-Max? Now that it's getting to the point where V65 Sabre parts are getting hard to find, I might eventually want to (need to?) pick up a Max - I hope Yamaha doesn't kill it off...

All whining aside, it's nice to see manufacturers putting some perfomance into "road bikes" (as opposed to track bikes). I think sportbikes are about as much fun to ride on the street as getting a root canal. I'm still waiting for MOTORCYCLES with good power to be made that are not easily catagorizable. The V-Max is all that's left right now, and even it is kinda quirky...

Anyway, this Warrior looks like a pretty nice ride for a cruiser - how does it compare to the rest of the the power cruisers in the shoot out?

sqidbait · 11-06-2001, 02:10 PM

>I'm still waiting for MOTORCYCLES with

>good power to be made that are not easily

>catagorizable

What's wrong with the big standards like

the ZRX, FZ-1, B12, and the soon to be

released Hornet?

One of these will be my next bike...comfort

and horsepower, what more could one ask for?

-- Michael

Rob-SV650 · 11-06-2001, 02:57 PM

Those are "sportbikes without fairings" - short wheelbased, low raked bikes that are designed to perform well under racetrack-like conditions. They are designed to be responsive at high speeds, but at typical everyday speeds they are lousy (unless you ride like a squid at all times).

A good example of a real standard is a Nighthawk. It doesn't have that much power, but it's the kind of bike that does everything pretty well. Make one with real power and I'll be interested. The V-Max is close but still quirky (styling emphasized over function, especially the small gas tank). Still, if the Sabre died tomorrow it's probably what I'd buy.

The bikes you mention are weekend toys. Trust me, as an SV650 owner who is about to put it up for sale, I know. I'm sticking with my 17 year old V65 Sabre until something comes out that can do everything as well as it can.

poopypants · 11-06-2001, 03:39 PM

YOU WIMP!!!!! I have a '99 sv650 with over 20k miles on the clock. I commute, sport tour (with a passenger), and ride all winter. My wife and I regularly do 500 mile days on our twin. Calling an SV a "weekend toy" is an insult.

alanheng · 11-06-2001, 04:10 PM

Air cooled, huh?

What's everybody's take on that?

May I add that the last picture of the red Warrior with stacked shot-gun pipes is ABSOLUTELY stunning!

GS1100GK · 11-06-2001, 04:21 PM

Whoa! What a great looking bike...OK guys, show me the comparo with the Kawasaki Mean Streak come out so I can make a decision..hehehe. I've seen the Kawi at the dealership and think it looks great.

Hopefully, Yamaha and Kawasaki will offer some touring parts for these bikes (I know, Kawi has the Nomad, and Yamaha the Road Star Silverado for that, but I want something with some goose to it.) After all, some of us can only afford 1 bike so the bike will have to do double duty for me as a commuter ride as well.

Either of these would be a great replacement for my 1982 GS1100GK!

GS1100GK · 11-06-2001, 04:24 PM

I agree, there are not many bikes left that offer power and comfort that do not require you to "ride" the tank or recline in a lazyboy type seat. That is why I've kept my 82 GS1100GK. However, I could be tempted by this beast for sure!

starvingstudent · 11-06-2001, 04:25 PM

Not to mention the R1150R, ZR7S, SV650, Nighthawk, F650, Monster, W650, Sportster Sport....the list, even in the US, is huge. The market segment exists if you want it.

And if you don't like a Bandit or FZ1's seating position...well change it. That IS why they have tubular handlebars, right?

starvingstudent · 11-06-2001, 04:27 PM

What's the news on the ZR7/SV650/Monster test? If you decided to drop it, just tell me so I can quit holding my breath...getting a bit blue in the face here...

slowburner_1 · 11-06-2001, 05:05 PM

The shotgun pipes should be standard on the Warrior. They look great. The great big can - on a cruiser? - does nothing for me. The bike looks sweet with the chin spoiler and mini fairing, but those might not be for everybody. Let us add those. But the pipes! The bike needs those pipes on the showroom floor. I'd hate to buy a brand new cruiser and then spend more money just to make it look like it should have in the first place.

11-06-2001, 01:53 PM	#1
Rob-SV650 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 146	Not bad... Nice ride, but what does this mean for the V-Max? Now that it's getting to the point where V65 Sabre parts are getting hard to find, I might eventually want to (need to?) pick up a Max - I hope Yamaha doesn't kill it off... All whining aside, it's nice to see manufacturers putting some perfomance into "road bikes" (as opposed to track bikes). I think sportbikes are about as much fun to ride on the street as getting a root canal. I'm still waiting for MOTORCYCLES with good power to be made that are not easily catagorizable. The V-Max is all that's left right now, and even it is kinda quirky... Anyway, this Warrior looks like a pretty nice ride for a cruiser - how does it compare to the rest of the the power cruisers in the shoot out?

11-06-2001, 02:10 PM	#2
sqidbait Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 170	Re: Not bad... >I'm still waiting for MOTORCYCLES with >good power to be made that are not easily >catagorizable What's wrong with the big standards like the ZRX, FZ-1, B12, and the soon to be released Hornet? One of these will be my next bike...comfort and horsepower, what more could one ask for? -- Michael

11-06-2001, 02:57 PM	#3
Rob-SV650 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 146	Re: Not bad... Those are "sportbikes without fairings" - short wheelbased, low raked bikes that are designed to perform well under racetrack-like conditions. They are designed to be responsive at high speeds, but at typical everyday speeds they are lousy (unless you ride like a squid at all times). A good example of a real standard is a Nighthawk. It doesn't have that much power, but it's the kind of bike that does everything pretty well. Make one with real power and I'll be interested. The V-Max is close but still quirky (styling emphasized over function, especially the small gas tank). Still, if the Sabre died tomorrow it's probably what I'd buy. The bikes you mention are weekend toys. Trust me, as an SV650 owner who is about to put it up for sale, I know. I'm sticking with my 17 year old V65 Sabre until something comes out that can do everything as well as it can.

11-06-2001, 03:39 PM	#4
poopypants Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 27	Re: Not bad... YOU WIMP!!!!! I have a '99 sv650 with over 20k miles on the clock. I commute, sport tour (with a passenger), and ride all winter. My wife and I regularly do 500 mile days on our twin. Calling an SV a "weekend toy" is an insult.

11-06-2001, 04:10 PM	#5
alanheng Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 61	Re: Yamaha Warrior Feedback Air cooled, huh? What's everybody's take on that? May I add that the last picture of the red Warrior with stacked shot-gun pipes is ABSOLUTELY stunning!

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11-06-2001, 04:21 PM	#6
GS1100GK Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 55	Re: Yamaha Warrior Feedback Whoa! What a great looking bike...OK guys, show me the comparo with the Kawasaki Mean Streak come out so I can make a decision..hehehe. I've seen the Kawi at the dealership and think it looks great. Hopefully, Yamaha and Kawasaki will offer some touring parts for these bikes (I know, Kawi has the Nomad, and Yamaha the Road Star Silverado for that, but I want something with some goose to it.) After all, some of us can only afford 1 bike so the bike will have to do double duty for me as a commuter ride as well. Either of these would be a great replacement for my 1982 GS1100GK!

11-06-2001, 04:24 PM	#7
GS1100GK Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 55	Re: Not bad... I agree, there are not many bikes left that offer power and comfort that do not require you to "ride" the tank or recline in a lazyboy type seat. That is why I've kept my 82 GS1100GK. However, I could be tempted by this beast for sure!

11-06-2001, 04:25 PM	#8
starvingstudent Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 486	Re: Not bad... Not to mention the R1150R, ZR7S, SV650, Nighthawk, F650, Monster, W650, Sportster Sport....the list, even in the US, is huge. The market segment exists if you want it. And if you don't like a Bandit or FZ1's seating position...well change it. That IS why they have tubular handlebars, right?

11-06-2001, 04:27 PM	#9
starvingstudent Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 486	Hey MO... What's the news on the ZR7/SV650/Monster test? If you decided to drop it, just tell me so I can quit holding my breath...getting a bit blue in the face here...

11-06-2001, 05:05 PM	#10
slowburner_1 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9	Pipes and fairing and spoiler, O MY !!! The shotgun pipes should be standard on the Warrior. They look great. The great big can - on a cruiser? - does nothing for me. The bike looks sweet with the chin spoiler and mini fairing, but those might not be for everybody. Let us add those. But the pipes! The bike needs those pipes on the showroom floor. I'd hate to buy a brand new cruiser and then spend more money just to make it look like it should have in the first place.