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Old 10-30-2001, 08:49 AM   #21
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I got well over 12K on a set of MeZ4s on a Bandit 600. I am not a particularly hard rider- you touch down the pegs to quickly on a Bandit- and I only weigh about 165. I put new ones on the bike when I hit the wear bar (wimp!). I suppose that if I went to the cords, they could have stayed on the bike for another 4 to 5K! I do a lot of cold and wet weather riding, which preserves the tread, so you can take that into consideration, too.
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Old 10-31-2001, 05:55 AM   #22
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Amen to that......



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Old 10-31-2001, 05:59 AM   #23
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Stop riding a Duck in the rain??? Ducatis slide beautifully in the rain, its that smooth predictable power delivery. Everybody knows that ducks love the water.
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Old 10-31-2001, 11:39 AM   #24
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Well, is there a good grippy tire that can last more than 15,000km? Tires are very expensive here, they eat your budget if you ride frequently.. And Dunlop D207 weared out in 8,000 km, not to mention that I had no money at a time so I rode another 4,000 on it and it became as flat as a car tire, and as grippy as a piece of glass..

BTW, if a tire has a slightly longer warm-up time, it doesn't matter much.

Ah, and the bike is going to be YZF-R6 or CBR900RR, most probably (money's still on the way - some ******* burned my old lovely GSX-R750, so I'm bikeless for 3 months now, and it still hurts).
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Old 11-01-2001, 01:57 PM   #25
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Dunlop D205's will last you at least 15,000 km, they're not as grippy as the 207's, but once warmed up, are adequate for spirited weekend riding.
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Old 11-06-2001, 08:54 AM   #26
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1) Well, hold on there...



2) ...thus I can double the contact patch in square inches by halving the tire pressure? No way.



3) Changing the shape can change the area. Its not a given, but if you let the tire run "flatter" at any particular lean angle by changing the shape of the tire (via circ. or radial bands), you will get both change in shape and/or area of the contact patch.



By the way, it is tire pressure that controls the heat buildup in the tire, primarily through controlled flexing of the sidewall. You want cooler tires? Increase the pressure. That's why it is so interesting that your Michelin guys tried to heat up the tire during the warmest period of the day to give you better stick...like they weren't warming up enough?





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Old 04-12-2002, 06:54 AM   #27
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Poser,

Squids (as well as posers) never ride on the edges of their tires they only wear out the center of the tires. Geez! How long have you been riding that you don't know that?
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Old 02-03-2003, 01:43 PM   #28
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Take it from an old guy; never, ever let a tire get that bald before you get rid of it. You may think you cant afford it, but the reality is you CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO.
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Old 04-01-2003, 02:56 AM   #29
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Awesome tire.Took my 01 GSXR750 to a track school at jennings GP,my new dunlop 207's were sliding on the 3rd 20 minute session.I went back on the sportecs and have no complaints.I won an amatuer race there, my first race ever and was the only bike on street tires.Before the race everyone was telling me not to race on those tires.Afterwards they were saying "I guess I can go faster since I have slicks." No better tire for the money!
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Old 08-10-2003, 09:19 PM   #30
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Uh, not completely sure but "controlled flexing of the carcass" would build a set amount of heat related to speed and tire pressure and the asphalt trying to rip the tread off the carcass would add more heat related to acceleration forces and the size of the contact patch plus another hugely variable amount for the amount of sliding friction. If Michelin technicians were in attendance of the Metzeler into then I would understand your skepticism but it'd be a safe guess that whomever was there knows more than you and I ever will and likely dropped the tire pressure to increase the size of the contact patch and increase grip.
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