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Old 10-23-2001, 05:50 PM   #11
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Default Re: Sad News: Single-Vehicle Motorcycle Deaths Rise (Again!)

motorcycles getting faster every year-
new riders thinking that a 600 is a starter bike-
it's not "cool "to wear a helmet these days-
kids doing extreme stunts without wearing protective gear- it doesn't surprise me at all !
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Old 10-23-2001, 05:54 PM   #12
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Well, at the end of the day, the amount of fatal single vehicle crashes IS increasing as a percentage of total crashes. Regardless of total miles driven or how many people are riding, this is definitely a bad thing, and the trend is going the wrong way, no matter how slightly or how much NHTSA is playing with the numbers.
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Old 10-23-2001, 07:48 PM   #13
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Also, the fact that bikes are so good today tends to make some, shall we say, overzealous, overestimating their skills and limits and committing a mistake they can't handle because they think they're Ben Bostrom. They take chances they otherwise wouldn't on say a 20 year old bike, because of this.
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Old 10-23-2001, 07:55 PM   #14
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Miles ridden data has to be included. This study indicates that a rider with a BAC greater than 0.1 at 3:30am on a 1300cc bike is safer than a rider with a BAC of 0.01 at 1:00am on a 600cc bike.



You are still more likely to be killed in a multiple-vehicle accident (54%) than in a single-vehicle accident (46%). How many multiple-vehicle accidents involve multiple motorcycles? The cagers are coming...





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Old 10-23-2001, 08:34 PM   #15
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Does anybody remember July 23rd, 1987?



On that day, Senator John Danforth (Republican from Missouri) read, before his fellow senators, the Motorcycle Safety Act of 1987 (Senate Bill 1536).



This was "a bill to require the Secretary of Transportation to promulgate rules regarding the safe operation of certain rapid acceleration motorcycles."



Following increases in fatality statistics, Senator Danforth (with the backing of the insurance industry) proposed the creation of federal horsepower-to-weight ratio limits for motorcycles sold in the United States.



The bill died while before the Commerce Commitee.



If you think NHTSA studies don't affect you, if you think we should all just put on helmets and not drink and ride carefully, you are missing the point.



Register to vote. Get informed.
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Old 10-23-2001, 08:38 PM   #16
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Default helmet use? whoohoooo!!!

lets see according to the NHTSA in 99 the helmet use made for a 1% gain. Wow, and in 98 it was even. No difference !!!! Considering that most states during this time jumped on the no helmet bandwagon the "bloodbath" of helmetless riders has not only failed to materialize, but has shown little no differance.



No, i do not ride cruisers, i road race. But no, putt-putting around town the helmet is not a startrek shield.

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Old 10-23-2001, 08:48 PM   #17
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Default the stats actually do not say that.

So these days it is not cool to wear helmets. Could be.



So "these days", 1998 the deaths for helmet and helmetless riders was exactly the same percentage.



In 1999 the difference was only 1% (in favor of helmet wearing riders). HUGE differances here!!! Wow, your dumbarse has discovered the reason for the "huge" increase in fatalities.
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Old 10-23-2001, 08:53 PM   #18
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Oh God. Don't they realize that someone on a Hayabusa with a full-face helmet and leathers is better off than someone on an Intruder 125 in shorts and sunglasses?!
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Old 10-23-2001, 09:04 PM   #19
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Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if helmets are more common now than ever before. With lightweight, comfortable Arais and Shoeis with race-rep graphics or lustrous single-color paint, wearing a helmet is much more pleasant than it used to be and for some crowds is now a style _enhancement_.



I do agree with you on the starter bike thing, though. I've got nothing against CBRs and even Hayabusas on the road, but people shouldn't be buying them as first bikes. No one party (magazines, manufacturers, marketing) should singlehandedly be blamed for this trend, though. That would explain the increase in death/accident, though--some novice riders will always screw up, but screwing up at 45 is a lot better than screwing up at 135.
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Old 10-23-2001, 09:51 PM   #20
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Here's a correlation to ponder: number of motorcyclists killed vs. number of SUV's on the road. How many of those killed were run off the road by some completely oblivious Toyota Land Crusher driver talking on a cell phone, who didn't even notice the rider, much less the accident?



One thing we, collectively, have to get our act together on is making other drivers aware of motorcyclists and letting them know that we have just as much right to the road as they do.



Do your part for safety. Walk around your neighborhood at night and slash the tires of every Explorer and Suburban you see.
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