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Old 09-29-2001, 11:58 AM   #151
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Default Re: Year 2002 Honda reader feedback

3. Those are indeed good guidelines for designing anything. I generally appreciate a minimalist design - clean and functional, with just a touch of class. The front end the '02 VFR looks a bit busy for my taste, but if you try to look at it as "chiseled" instead of "angular", it begins to make sense. The angles are chiseled into a very fluid overall package.



The same trend is evident in the auto industry right now, as most of you have probably noticed. Lots of angular, chiseled front ends on the '02 and '03 concepts. It is a trend that will go away and return periodically, like all other aesthetic fashions.



Once the trend turns, will owners of this style of bike find themselves on conspicuously out-dated machines?
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Old 10-01-2001, 08:40 AM   #152
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Default Why would you buy a Nighthawk

when the Kawasaki ZR-7S is such a better bike?
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Old 10-01-2001, 05:00 PM   #153
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Default Re: Different strokes! :-)

Yes, the ZRX is really cool, but could be a little lighter. The V Max is cool, but overpriced, way overweight and underbraked. If this 919 puts 110hp to the ground, and handles and stops well, then it just might be one of the coolest bikes out there.
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Old 10-01-2001, 05:03 PM   #154
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Default Re: Dig that crazy factory rat-bike!

I dig the flat black. Looks kinda tough. All that thing needs now is some drag bars and a big fat turbo hangin' out there for all to see.
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Old 10-02-2001, 03:46 PM   #155
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Default Re: Why would you buy a Nighthawk

There is more to riding than all-out performance. The ZR-7S is probably lighter and more powerful, but the Nighthawk 750 has adequate power, very good brakes (despite being a front disc and a rear drum) and is stone reliable (also has self-adjusting hydraulic lifters; what does the ZR-7S have, threaded adjusters, or shims?). The only thing stopping the Nighthawk from being a gas & go vehicle is the chain drive, but OTOH there are no shaft reactions in corners...
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Old 10-04-2001, 07:37 AM   #156
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Default Re: 919 is ugly and not in the right way

Butt ugly is what I call the 919. I'm sorry but having the radiator and pipes all stacked up front like that is just gruesome looking. I could live with the radiator if the pipes didn't all exit the front of the engine. I would love to get a honda monster-like bike since it would be reliable as hell and I could save the time I spend with my Buell X1 and Ducati Monster (which is going up for sale) for riding. If the 919 had some shred of style or street-fighter looks about then I might be interested. The damn thing looks like a 70's CB bike or one of those butt-ugly naked bandits. Maybe I'm just partial to v-twins, especially air or oil-cooled.
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Old 10-04-2001, 02:59 PM   #157
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Default Jaw Dropped....

I'm duely impressed with the styling of the VFR, I would almost say it was perfect. We no longer have to buy aftermarket pipes to clear the single sided swing-arm. Its just Awsome..



Sorry I'm just a Viffer Fan...



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Old 10-04-2001, 08:51 PM   #158
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Default Re: 919 is cool as hell

Where the hell else do you want the exhaust to exit the engine? And hangin' the radiator out in front is the easiest way to do it. Especially with an MSRP of $8k. I dig twins and four bangers, but I won't buy a new air cooled bike. Maybe a pre 1980something, but liquid cooled is the way to go. Buells have some questionable styling in my opinion. I'd be willing to bet this thing would be just as quick or quicker and more reliable, though.
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Old 10-05-2001, 06:25 AM   #159
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My favorite bike was my '78 CB750K, which, though heavy and aged, was often underestimated by other bikers at the red lights. The 919 is exactly what I've been looking for since then- the understated bike with the power to street fight. The blackout paint makes me happy- though I can understand why people used to flashy sporters or deep toned cruisers might be dissapointed. The pipes make my mouth water- I love the under the seat position of the 919 and the VFR. And the engine is the highlight- Big enough to rip- small enough to be lighter in weight as well as lighter on the fuel, and basic styling- no need to make it pretty- this one is for riders, not for show. I have a feeling that there are going to be some red-faced full-farrers out there shortly after the beginning of the year. Lastly, a standard that isn't BUTT UGLY, who ever would have guessed? I'm tired of looking at the Bandit as the only affordable choice in the powerful end of the standards, since it unsucessfully tried to be cheap without looking cheap. Thanks Honda, you have a customer waiting.
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Old 10-05-2001, 07:54 AM   #160
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Default The only major problem with the ZR-7

Is that it has a short valve adjustment interval. The engine is stone reliable, at least as much so as the Nighthawk. I believe the ZR-7 has threaded adjusters for the valves, not sure though. Otherwise it is a better bike than the Nighthawk in every way, not just performance.
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