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Old 08-15-2001, 04:32 AM   #91
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Default Re: Feeding the inner child

starving,



The sport standard is not better than a sportbike for the real-world as far as cleaning goes...



On the side, I have one comment to make. My dad just bought a Vulcan, and we go riding together whenever we can. I find that when we're riding together, everybody waves at us, whether they're on a tourer, cruiser, standard or sportbike. I don't know if that's because we're on 2 different kinds of bikes, so I get the sport/tourer wavers, and he gets the cruiser wavers, or because they can see we obviously have 2 different rides, and we ride together. What burns me is, when I head back to my home, about 200 miles from my Dad's house, all of the cruisers stop waving. Everybody else is very friendly, except the "bad boys" on their cruisers. Just reinforces my desire to NEVER own a cruiser (my Dad's bike is terribly uncomfortable, and underpowered) and to NEVER allow myself to come off like a jerk-faced poser that is too d@//N cool to wave to anybody riding a different kind of motorcycle.



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Old 08-15-2001, 04:37 AM   #92
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Apology accepted, your points are well taken. I just can't believe you don't have any desire to be married or have kids? I can't imagine a life without the frustrations (and joys) they give you. Besides, if I didn't have them, I'd probably have to ride everyday and night of the year (may have to move to a warmer climate though). I would even consider riding in the Iron Butt. Thank God though, I don't have to worry about having that much fun. Oh well, maybe in my next life I'll have more sense.



Also, I have a Harley and I sometimes feel like I am one of only a few that will actually admit there are much better bikes available. Regarding the FZ, it could use a facelift. However, I just got back from riding it in the mountains of Colorado for two weeks and I could care less what it looked like. It is an awesome piece of machinery. It took a week after I returned to get the permanent grin off of my face!



You made a good choice buying a Monster. I would love to have one of the new S4 models! It would be too hard though to go naked twice. Besides, the next bike on my list is the new FJR. Damn you Yamaha, bring the bike to the States!!!



Here's to having so much money we're all, "ALMOST unhappy!!!"



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Old 08-15-2001, 05:23 AM   #93
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Default Re: Kawasaki Mean Streak reader feedback

VTX is still King of the V twin Hill. Other than with a POLICE escort at Sturgis I haven't seen any V RODS on the highway yet. The Mean Streak at least comes close to the VTX's great custom looks. It should be intersting to see what Honda does with next year's (2003) VTX. Lighter, higher revving, dual pipes I'll bet!?
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Old 08-15-2001, 05:38 AM   #94
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I think Kawi does get it in *some* respects. The *look* of muscle is more important than the actual presence of it on these bikes. And that applies to the majority (though not all) "power cruiser" riders --the term still borders on oxymoron. And aiming at the majority is more profitable than aiming at the minority who actually DO want to have the fastest so-called power cruiser. OTOH things like superior brakes can be appreciated even by people who never intend to drag race with anybody ever!
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Old 08-15-2001, 06:24 AM   #95
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You mean like a Triumph Speed Triple? (Sorry, I'm prejudiced.) lol
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Old 08-15-2001, 06:35 AM   #96
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Default Re: H-D has more power than Kawasaki Mean Average?

I don't think the engine characteristics are as relevant as the prices - not likely that a bike available for 10K (MS) and one available for 25K (V-Rod) are being shopped seriously by the same buyer.
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Old 08-15-2001, 07:00 AM   #97
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"The sport standard is not better than a sportbike for the real-world as far as cleaning goes... "



Good point. I bet that's part of why fully faired bikes are so popular in Britain. Here in Colorado, it rains about twice a year , and that's about how often I have to clean.



Another way to baffle the wavers is riding around on my Shadow with a full-face helmet and a backpack on. All the sportbike riders wave (because of the helmet? Because my backpack implies that I'm in the early twenties?), and most cruiser riders wave (except for the HD bad-boys who think WWII is still going on).



Regardless of who I was riding with or what we were on, I've never passed a Goldwing rider who didn't wave. Wouldn't it be great if everybody was that friendly?
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Old 08-15-2001, 07:07 AM   #98
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Actually, if you look at the riding position of a basic 883, it's pure standard. Unfortunately, my ass goes completely numb after an hour or so on a Sportster.
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Old 08-15-2001, 07:19 AM   #99
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I don't know, I might actually consider buying a cruiser regardless of muscular looks, but I do want a bike that can still make me go "holy sh!t" when I hold the throttle open! Oh well, they still make V-Maxes...
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Old 08-15-2001, 08:34 AM   #100
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Default Re: Kawasaki Mean Streak reader feedback

I agree, why target current Vulcan owners when designing a new ride. Are you just counting on trade-in sales of all the current owners? It's like admitting that you don't really intend to compete in the niche at all. And having them choose between a tame 65HP ride or a 100HP Turbo-Charged beast? Talk about one extreme to another. That's just a poor attempt at acting like you really care what these people want. Kinda like saying "If you don't like this wild bronco, your stuck with the pony from the trail rides".
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