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Old 07-12-2001, 09:53 PM   #11
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If was possible to get one even close to list price, it would definately get my vote for Bike of the Year. But, I fear they will all be scalped for WAY over $20,000. And that, really does put it in a category of one!
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Old 07-12-2001, 11:29 PM   #12
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You can just about guarantee the bike will sell for as much as twice MSRP with only 11K of them made the first year.



So what does that make this bike? Just a show bike to look at and think "hrm, nice" then you go get on your real-world bike that you paid about 25% of what the V-Rod would go for if you got lucky.



What gets me more than anything is the press will go on about the price not being bad and yadda blah, when owning one is impossible. With their incredible popularity, I just don't see how H-D hasn't figured out how to keep up with demand.



Oh, and they will also go on about how well it competes with the VTX, Warrior, etc. So what? The R1 beats them all, and REAL WORLD market wise is as close to the V-Rod as the VTX is.



I also don't buy the "holds its value" line. Yeah, so some other damned fool will also overpay for it. So what? I buy a bike to RIDE it, not as an investment.



All that said, I like it. Next year when they show up for rent I think I'll go take a spin on one.



My hope is that Buell will announce a bike with that same engine (not the Firebolt) and nobody will want it just like the other Buells and average folk can go pick one up for a reasonable price.
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Old 07-12-2001, 11:42 PM   #13
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Great article guys! As a test rider for the motor company with over 50,000 durabilty miles logged on the VR product alone, I can assure your readers that the VR is every bit as exciting as you have described. It's quick, boasting a broad powerband, yet highly manageable; complimented with a very maneuverable chassis. The VR does many things well and manages capture the joy of motorcycling more than any other product the motor company has produced in its 99-year history. Whether you're a die hard H-D enthusiast or brand X owner, you have to appreciate the VR for all that it does.



I must admit, I'm biased. And since I'm on the company payroll my opinion may not count here. But you don't have to take my word. I encourage fellow motorcycling enthusiasts to give this one a hard look. I am confident you'll be as equally impressed with the VR's performance, as illustrated by the staff at MO.
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Old 07-12-2001, 11:58 PM   #14
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Harley-Davidson has moved forward into the _second_ half of the 20th century just in time for the 21st. Nice bike-- I want one.



I'll even buy one for $10,000 new. If Honda can pay Japanese workers and offer the RC51 for $10K, and BMW can pay German workers and offer the R1150R for $10K, then Harley can offer this bike for ten grand. They just won't.



And I don't like getting ripped off.



Other $10,000 range bikes include the Moto Guzzi Quota, Ducati M900 Monster Dark, and of course all the flagship open-class Japanese fours. There is nothing special enough about the V-Rod to warrant a 70% sucharge over all these bikes.



And as if an MSRP big enough to buy TWO 1200 Bandits plus a long riding vacation weren't enough, I bet not one of those 11,000 first year V-Rod sells for anything close to MSRP. Some folks just can't get enough of the "Vaseline tax." They can have it, I say.



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Old 07-13-2001, 12:22 AM   #15
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Well it doesn't look like any Harley I've ever heard of! 2 fingers on the front brake to scrub off speed? 140mph? Decent handling? I've only ever ridden one Harley, in the interests of research, and the Softail Deuce I borrowed from a dealer over here was a £15,000 ($21,000) anti-social deathtrap with awful handling, no ground clearance, lethal (complete lack of) brakes, pathetically inadequate suspension, ridiculous head-rake and a motor which managed to be both gutless and too much for the chassis.



If this thing is for real then it's still not my kind of bike, but at least it *is* a bike rather than a dangerous practical joke played at the (vast) expense of gullible and affluent Americans.



I guess I'll wait until the hype dies down before I try to decide whether this thing is likely to go down as 'good by some sensible absolute measure' or 'pretty average, but still bl@@dy amazing for a Harley'.



One thing, though - I notice they keep the traditional ridiculous steering head angle... so I'll take all claims of superb cornering perfromance with a pinch of salt until somebody can explain how forks that kicked-out are compatible with twisty roads...
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Old 07-13-2001, 12:46 AM   #16
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All I can say is F@#$%*G FINALLY !!!!
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Old 07-13-2001, 02:53 AM   #17
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I always said some day I'll own a Harley. They are getting close, but the butt ugly gauges and head light have to go along with the Yamaha trim over the swing arm pivot. It looks good from the back.
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Old 07-13-2001, 02:57 AM   #18
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it might just be time for you to test-ride other motorcycles, of different names & styles. but then they'd probably hang you by the balls.
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Old 07-13-2001, 03:02 AM   #19
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HD has a well history of selling everything they make (or somebody else makes for them) regardless of how crappy/good it might be.
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Old 07-13-2001, 03:03 AM   #20
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The 49 mm inverted forks poke off the



The dont look inverted to me.
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