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Old 05-08-2001, 05:04 AM   #41
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Default You sure that was a description of British bikes or...

perhaps you're mistakenly recalling what your ex listed on the divorce petition-?
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Old 05-08-2001, 05:22 AM   #42
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Default Tiger problems, an better solution






It's butt ugly.



Triumph has reliability problems.



Aftermarket accessories are almost non-existant.



Repair parts won't ever be readily available because they change the engine every year.



If Honda would sell its XL 1000V Varadero in the US like they do the rest of the world they could make a mint off all us guys who are getting too old for KLR650's and don't have a BMW dealer down the street to pamper our dodgy GS1150's.



Check out the Honda Varadero here...



http://www.hondampe.com.au/MPE/motor...asp?BikeID=103



Here's a webpage of Americans who are lobbying Honda to bring it here...



http://www.geocities.com/honda_varadero/varapage.htm



It has the same v-twin engine as the VTR1000F.

Engine Type: Liquid-cooled 4-stroke 8-valve DOHC 90° V-twin

Displacement: 996cm

Carburettor(s): 42mm slanted flat-slide CV-type x 2

Transmission: 5-speed

Final Drive: 'O'-ring sealed chain

Dry Weight (kg): 220kg
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Old 05-08-2001, 06:13 AM   #43
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"I've never really understood...."



The reason many people, myself included, like the BMW GS is its versatility. I ride a combination of commuting, small backroads exploration, and riding with sport touring types. The BMW handles all these tasks very well. In southern Indiana, there are also lots of gravel roads in the national forest, and the BMW gladly takes one across these, as well. It's a well-designed, all-around bike which doesn't look like everybody else's R1 or Harley dresser.



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Old 05-08-2001, 10:16 AM   #44
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Default Re: Tiger problems, an better solution

Honda has reliablity problems

The Varadero is even uglier

The Varadero is too big

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Old 05-08-2001, 05:26 PM   #45
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It seems you haven't ridden a modern British bike....
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Old 05-08-2001, 05:30 PM   #46
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Default Re: Triumph Tiger Reader Feedback

If your triple vibrates, then something is very wrong.

They are usually very smooth. I have not riden a new Triumph that has been otherwise. Current (2000) Tiger included.



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Old 05-09-2001, 04:24 AM   #47
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Default Re: Triumph Tiger Reader Feedback

Or even an *old* one for that matter...sure the oldsters were slow and unreliable by today's standards but they were never heavy nor overpriced. And anybody who thinks traditional British bikes are ugly must have acquired their taste watching Saturday morning cartoons and thus should actually *like* the Tiger.
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Old 05-09-2001, 04:44 AM   #48
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You are right Honda motorcycles are not reliable if compared to say their cars because you can't build bikes as carefree as Accords and say "performance first" with a straight face. But Hondas are reliable enough *motorcycles* and so are production Triumphs for that matter generally speaking, a few embarrassing pre-prod specimens aside. The Varadero would be an alternative in it's segment, and cruisers have shown that when there are more alternatives offered a market segment will grow and everybody wins. I'm all for importing it to the USA myself even though I wouldn't have any immediate plans to buy one.
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Old 05-09-2001, 05:58 AM   #49
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Default Whaddya mean "too old for a KLR650"?

Some of my aquaintances are in their 60's and still pounding around on their old KLRs. Would be nice to get a twin in one though.
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Old 05-09-2001, 01:52 PM   #50
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It was my thinking as well. Even after the dealer said it was normal for the bike, I still doubted it. After speaking with many other Tiger owners (via a mailing list), I have found a large number of them resort to filling the handlbars with silicon, installing neoprene bar softeners, using a bar snake, and experimenting with other various configurations to tame the vibrations (one actually recommended gel-filled gloves to remedy the problem). In all, I have found it not to be an isolated problem. Perhaps its a matter of tolerance?
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