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ksquid · 06-01-2007, 02:47 PM

Actually the WSP does use radar but you are right most don't If you watch the first video I submitted you hear the pilot call out the radar speed.

sfcdjevans · 06-01-2007, 03:24 PM

Thanks for taking me there, great video.

skeepee · 06-01-2007, 03:58 PM

He calls out the speed, but no mention of radar as the method.

WSP planes guage a ground vehicle's speed by pacing it or using a timing method. They have computers onboard to assist in this - you can see one in the KING5 video you posted.

Radar won't work in this application because it depends on doppler shift of a reflected signal. You wouldn't get much of a reflection off of an object travelling nearly perpendicular to you.

Buzglyd · 06-01-2007, 04:40 PM

tripleripple · 06-01-2007, 04:58 PM

I have an Idea for the next article. Going out on a limb here...but....here goes:

1. Gather a few experienced riders (preferably someone we have heard of).

2. Get a bike (New, used, at this point it doesn't even matter).

3. Ride the bike in various settings and take copious notes on what it's like (comfort, power, handling...you know, pros and cons).

4. Gather the notes and transform them into an informative, cohesive, and entertaining review of the bike (this is the most difficult part but I think you guys can do it).

5. Post that article on this website so all of your subscribers can read it, be informed and entertained, and have a hilarious debate after reading the article.

Here's the MOST IMPORTANT part: If, for some reason or another, this is not possible right now, have the common decency to tell your loyal subscribers (who pay money) why and let them know what to look forward to in the near future. In other words, FCUKING COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR READERS!! MO has been notoriously horrible at this and it's time you guys let us know what's going on.

Quick example: NEW OWNERS!! NEW EDITOR!! NEW FORMAT!! LOTS OF CHANGES!! What's happened since?? Crickets, that's what. It's annoying and unprofessional. I hate to compare MO to other magazines, but every single month I know exactly what to expect from Motorcyclist. I have yet to receive an issue that's blank inside. Time to step up MO.

Fenton · 06-01-2007, 05:45 PM

Shouldn't that be the title for ALL news items?

Buzglyd · 06-01-2007, 05:51 PM

I guess it depends if it's the sockmaster who knows everything about aerial surveillance or the one who thinks the bear in the air uses radar.

schizuki · 06-01-2007, 05:53 PM

"Radar won't work in this application because it depends on doppler shift of a reflected signal. You wouldn't get much of a reflection off of an object travelling nearly perpendicular to you."

Yeah, it would pretty much read "0 MPH".

schizuki · 06-01-2007, 05:56 PM

+1.

Like I said earlier today, the natives are getting restless. Time to speak up, MO.

RonXX · 06-01-2007, 06:21 PM

JB, of course those listed modifications are beneficial to a drag racer. I think what the author failed to mention is that those same bikes will undoubtedly be shod with an additional 10 pounds of chrome plating, neon lights in some random location, and perhaps even an LCD television embedded in a gas tank shroud. I only mention this because I have seen it.

What this really comes down to is the fundamental lack of intelligence in the general population. If the average IQ is 100 (by definition) then that must mean there are a hell of a lot of people out there with one less than 100. That's pretty f*cking dumb. So they spend their inflated salaries on crap ornaments to hang on a once superb motorcyle in an effort to immitate their favorite knucklehead from the movies. There is no consideration given to 'form over function' (written backwards in the article), demonstrating that the owner is not really interested in riding a bike for the purpose it was designed or even modified for. They may be happy with their shiny toys though, and they will continue to breathe through their mouths as they spend, spend, spend.

06-01-2007, 02:47 PM	#11
ksquid Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: My new favorite site is CycleWorld.com Posts: 3,775	Re: Bike Culture Barometer: Bike Week 2007 Actually the WSP does use radar but you are right most don't If you watch the first video I submitted you hear the pilot call out the radar speed.

06-01-2007, 03:24 PM	#12
sfcdjevans Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: 43.47N-76.48W Posts: 956	Re: Bike Culture Barometer: Bike Week 2007 Thanks for taking me there, great video. __________________ 3425 miles from Reading, UK Why their heads on a pike of course. If I thought it would do any good.

06-01-2007, 03:58 PM	#13
skeepee Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 80	Re: Bike Culture Barometer: Bike Week 2007 He calls out the speed, but no mention of radar as the method. WSP planes guage a ground vehicle's speed by pacing it or using a timing method. They have computers onboard to assist in this - you can see one in the KING5 video you posted. Radar won't work in this application because it depends on doppler shift of a reflected signal. You wouldn't get much of a reflection off of an object travelling nearly perpendicular to you.

06-01-2007, 04:40 PM	#14
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,850	WARNING: KBASHING THREAD IN PROGRESS!

06-01-2007, 04:58 PM	#15
tripleripple Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lightly Fortified Compound (apartment): Chicago, IL Posts: 421	Open Letter to Motorcyle.com I have an Idea for the next article. Going out on a limb here...but....here goes: 1. Gather a few experienced riders (preferably someone we have heard of). 2. Get a bike (New, used, at this point it doesn't even matter). 3. Ride the bike in various settings and take copious notes on what it's like (comfort, power, handling...you know, pros and cons). 4. Gather the notes and transform them into an informative, cohesive, and entertaining review of the bike (this is the most difficult part but I think you guys can do it). 5. Post that article on this website so all of your subscribers can read it, be informed and entertained, and have a hilarious debate after reading the article. Here's the MOST IMPORTANT part: If, for some reason or another, this is not possible right now, have the common decency to tell your loyal subscribers (who pay money) why and let them know what to look forward to in the near future. In other words, FCUKING COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR READERS!! MO has been notoriously horrible at this and it's time you guys let us know what's going on. Quick example: NEW OWNERS!! NEW EDITOR!! NEW FORMAT!! LOTS OF CHANGES!! What's happened since?? Crickets, that's what. It's annoying and unprofessional. I hate to compare MO to other magazines, but every single month I know exactly what to expect from Motorcyclist. I have yet to receive an issue that's blank inside. Time to step up MO.

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06-01-2007, 05:45 PM	#16
Fenton Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,900	Re: WARNING: KBASHING THREAD IN PROGRESS! Shouldn't that be the title for ALL news items?

06-01-2007, 05:51 PM	#17
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,850	Re: WARNING: KBASHING THREAD IN PROGRESS! I guess it depends if it's the sockmaster who knows everything about aerial surveillance or the one who thinks the bear in the air uses radar.

06-01-2007, 05:53 PM	#18
schizuki Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Just hangin' in Milan with Clara Posts: 4,997	Re: Bike Culture Barometer: Bike Week 2007 "Radar won't work in this application because it depends on doppler shift of a reflected signal. You wouldn't get much of a reflection off of an object travelling nearly perpendicular to you." Yeah, it would pretty much read "0 MPH". __________________ *Reverēre meam auctōritātem* "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own."

06-01-2007, 05:56 PM	#19
schizuki Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Just hangin' in Milan with Clara Posts: 4,997	Re: Open Letter to Motorcyle.com +1. Like I said earlier today, the natives are getting restless. Time to speak up, MO. __________________ *Reverēre meam auctōritātem* "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own."

06-01-2007, 06:21 PM	#20
RonXX Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 273	Re: Bike Culture Barometer: Bike Week 2007 JB, of course those listed modifications are beneficial to a drag racer. I think what the author failed to mention is that those same bikes will undoubtedly be shod with an additional 10 pounds of chrome plating, neon lights in some random location, and perhaps even an LCD television embedded in a gas tank shroud. I only mention this because I have seen it. What this really comes down to is the fundamental lack of intelligence in the general population. If the average IQ is 100 (by definition) then that must mean there are a hell of a lot of people out there with one less than 100. That's pretty f*cking dumb. So they spend their inflated salaries on crap ornaments to hang on a once superb motorcyle in an effort to immitate their favorite knucklehead from the movies. There is no consideration given to 'form over function' (written backwards in the article), demonstrating that the owner is not really interested in riding a bike for the purpose it was designed or even modified for. They may be happy with their shiny toys though, and they will continue to breathe through their mouths as they spend, spend, spend.