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Old 04-16-2007, 11:35 PM   #11
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Huh? I never feared twisty roads. I always have loved them "no guts no glory" I guess if you spent all your time on the flat straight roads of Chicago, you would be fearful..
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:06 AM   #12
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Even the MSF beginning rider course extremely heavily emphasises looking into the turn and turning your head. Old cheese if you've taken any of their salty old classes or read any books on riding technique.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:08 AM   #13
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One thing which people often forget to mention and which the MSF course didn't is that when looking through the corner, keep your head's axis perpendicular to the ground. If you tilt your head with the lean of the bike you lose perspective of the angle of the corner because the lean angle of the bike confuses you.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:32 AM   #14
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I learned the "look where you want to go" technique and lowering your head to the inside adds another 10 lbs or so to help tighten up a corner if you need.



I guess the biggest revelation to me was powering through a corner if you went in too hot instead of trying to brake which will stand the bike up and point you into the ditch. Just get as much weight as you can on the inside of the turn keep pressure on the inside bar end and power through.



That came to me when I started riding modern bikes with stiff frames and sticky rubber, back in the flexy-flyer frame and Conti Blitz tire days you just chopped the throttle and hoped for the best.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:14 AM   #15
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This guy Walt says:



"I would recommend to someone that just wants to go out for a ride...don't. Whenever you want to go out for a ride, go out and work on something. Be obsessive in what you do and always strive to get better and improve. Don't go out [and ride] without a purpose."



This is sooo loadsa crap its unbelievable. Always thriving and striving. How to wrangle spirit out of biking.



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Old 04-17-2007, 05:49 AM   #16
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Hey is that a crack about Wisconsin people ?
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:29 AM   #17
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Your last paragraph brought back unpleasant memories of my old Z1-B greasing around corners on the Conti twins. Once I tried Brit issue Dunlop K-81's. Generally an improvement except the knife edge effect whilst riding straight gave zero braking traction in the rain.

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Old 04-17-2007, 08:08 AM   #18
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Man, you got that one right. Three weekends ago I was riding up the coast with my "newbie" buddy. I made the mistake of taking the cloverleaf really fast with him following. He panicked and jammed on the rear brake at the apex. He went right off the road and wound up on his back. Luckily no injury, and his crash bars saved the bike from major damage. I think he got a valuable lesson at a fairly low price...
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:24 AM   #19
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He probably meant to say go out with a destination/purpose even if the ride is real reason, instead of just walking out the door and hopping on the bike to ride aimlessly. For some reason having an artificial goal seems to help keep me focused even during the ride... regardless of the distance or goal.



Varies from make the coffee shop by 7:30, to meet date at 1pm crosstown at the club, to reach to the Shasta trailhead with time to left to hike, or making it to the Mendocino coast by noon without getting a speeding ticket, with enough time for brunch. Doesn't seem to matter what it is, just that I have some purpose... even if it's just riding a big circular route with no stops.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:08 AM   #20
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Too bad no one offered any training at all when I started riding. This course is definitely preferable to the "Crash" method of gaining experience.



Too bad there's no 'stick avoidance' section, though.
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