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cls 04-11-2007 03:37 AM

Re: A Factor of X: BMW G 650 Series
 
Neat, but only worth it if you're a BMW diehard.

pplassm 04-11-2007 03:45 AM

Re: A Factor of X: BMW G 650 Series
 
Please forgive me if I don't get the whole BMW "thing". I guess it's sort of like preferring a certain American V-twin.



Compared to other bikes, especially off-road, these things are overweight, overpriced and don't have enough gears in the transmission.



Get a KTM.

seruzawa 04-11-2007 04:36 AM

Re: A Factor of X: BMW G 650 Series
 
I don't get it either. A riding buddy of mine owns 6 BMWs. They spend far more time being repaired than my 5 mostly ancient Japanese bikes. The quality reputation isn't even true. It's just a holdover from the 60's.

longride 04-11-2007 04:57 AM

Re: A Factor of X: BMW G 650 Series
 
Pretty cool stuff coming out of BMW these days. If they get prices in line like Ducati seems to have done, then I think things will take off for them.

pplassm 04-11-2007 05:57 AM

Re: A Factor of X: BMW G 650 Series
 
I just attended a demo day for KTM. The regional rep said that, including dirt bikes, KTM is now the largest selling European motorcycle manufacturer in the US. It's second in Europe.



BMW also just recently debuted a competition off-road mount Here's a link to photos:



http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ghlight=enduro



With the release of some highly touted street bikes, (read the Superduke write up in CW this month?) KTM is challenging BMW. BMW is stepping up with interesting new models. This is WAR!



It's a great time to buy a new bike!




monsters4 04-11-2007 06:42 AM

Re: A Factor of X: BMW G 650 Series
 
These engines are not maintenance *****s like KTM. (I have owned a KTM) That Rotax 650 is proven reliable and has a great service life. checked these out at a local dealer. They really are great quality. The plastic is substantial and does not feel cheap.

Seat was far better then any KTM and all quality components. You need to see these in person to appreciate the details. KTM's are off road competition bikes, the BMW is a duel sport trail bike.

sarnali2 04-11-2007 06:48 AM

Re: A Factor of X: BMW G 650 Series
 
I'm a little to old for the "Xtreme" thing.... I think the F 800 ST will be a fun and practical bike and of course with 800's soon the be the dominant size in motorcycling it's ahead of the curve as it were.



All BMW needs to do is teach the great unwashed that a "little" 800 is going to be quicker and better handling than there 1800cc 1000 lb.boat anchor and they'll sell like hot cakes.



Maybe they should have Peter Fonda and Jay Leno ride around on them at the intro so the sheep will see it's ok to have one

Kenneth_Moore 04-11-2007 06:55 AM

Re: A Factor of X: BMW G 650 Series
 
Shoot. When I saw "BMW Single" I was hoping to see a boxer engine sawed in half, with an oilhead cylinder sticking horizontally out of one side and a blank plate on the other. Where is the tradition, the heritage? BMW needs to review HD's success.

pplassm 04-11-2007 06:58 AM

Re: A Factor of X: BMW G 650 Series
 
FWIW, "hard enduro" is a term used in Germany to differentiate real off-road bikes from street oriented DS bikes like KLR650s, XT600s etc. These are referred to as "soft enduros". Really.

pplassm 04-11-2007 07:10 AM

Re: A Factor of X: BMW G 650 Series
 
Sounds like the X-Challenge is more of a "soft" than a "hard".


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