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Old 01-17-2007, 09:48 AM   #111
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Default Re: One other simple thing: Actually REQUIRE a liscence...

You should. I make sense at least 50% od the time.
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:50 AM   #112
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Default Re: Excellent Counterpoint. (WA state data)

cda you have some excellent counter points and you really are good at articulating them. However, I guess I am basing much of my proposals on the data provided by the Washington State Motorcycle Rider Safety Task Force Their conclusion was "The Task Force concluded that, while there are multiple contributions to motorcycle crashes that result in fatalities or serious injuries, it appears that the most important factors are within the control of the rider. Efforts to reduce fatalities and serious injuries should focus on rider skill and behavior."



I live in WA which has a mandatory helmet law.. When the helmet law was reinstated fatalities dramatically went down.









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Old 01-17-2007, 09:52 AM   #113
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Excellent point...You are right lot of folks are denying this fact..
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:53 AM   #114
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He was making the point of; if you are going to go and create new laws, you might as well try enforcing the current ones first.
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:53 AM   #115
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:55 AM   #116
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My first time on a motorcycle as an adult was at an MSF dirt course that my wife got me as a birthday present in November of '05. A lot of my street riding friends were telling me that "dirt's too different, you don't want to learn in dirt." I high sided a 200 lb motorcycle at WOT in dirt and got up with one scrape (that I didn't notice until two days later) and a bruised ego.



Thank you dirt.



I've often thought tierd licensing is a good idea just because of the exchange (that I've had several times) with young guys who see me with a motorcyle mag. "You ride" "No, I'm saving up money for my first bike." "You know what you should get? A Gixxer 1000."



It also would've saved my nephew from a bunch of stitches in his head.
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:58 AM   #117
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How do the above laws take away the fun of riding?
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Old 01-17-2007, 10:06 AM   #118
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I wanted to ride because it granted me freedom and power. Riding a 125cc around holds zero interest for me, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be a serious rider (don't even own a cage) if I had to spend a year on 125cc rebel.



And I agree that there are a lot of differences between the infrastructure in Europe and most of America.
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Old 01-17-2007, 10:09 AM   #119
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what is everyone complaining about? if tiered licensing comes to the US of A, it would apply to new riders. you guys already have your licenses, and it would only make the "new guys/gals" safer. win win for us who already ride.
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Old 01-17-2007, 10:16 AM   #120
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Agreed..Good point..
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