OlDrifter

Let me try this again (Score: -1)

By ksquid (kpaulTheGMP@megalomania.com) on Thursday, January 04 2007 @ 13:04:55 PST



# Point 1. You kind of changed the rules in the middle of the game like my daughters do to me when playing monopoly.. " Tiered licensing without any kind of meaningful rider education would have a minimal effect on rider safety in the United States." That's a big change there Gabester.



I agree completely. This is an entirely new premise from the original article. I COULD be persuaded that an either-or situation makes some sense: EITHER you take some significant rider safety training OR you submit to a tiered licensing system. Both have the same objective- keeping newbies from getting in over their heads.



But "common sense" does indeed have a place in the discussion. And if the motorcycle community itself doesn't begin providing some solutions- the legislators WILL... and they know FAR less about the subject than we do.



We know, if we're even remotely honest with ourselves, that a 17-year-old squid with no experience and 175 horsepower bike is a fatality looking for a place to happen. Likewise, an out-of-shape, 55-year-old yuppie with a new Gold Wing and no riding experience has an inordinately high probability of becoming an organ donor.



HOW we resolve that dilema is up to all of us because the newspapers are filled with the kinds of stories that politicians love to jump on.



As I said- if WE don't fix it- THEY will. Simply saying "it won't help" is leaving the ball in the politicans court and NONE of us will like THEIR solution!

seruzawa

Is he? I wouldn't know. I never read his responses to me.



I'm not at all interested in how insane the excuse is for the overmedicated public schools and their fat staff salaries and benefits..... all the while churning out 40% functional illiterates.



The govt shows its absolute incompetence at every turn. Yet the usual suspects clamor for more. Isn't there something about repeating the same action and expecting different results?

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acecycleins

Triumph and Ducati are the primary.

Husky, Moto Guzzi and MV Agusta are the secondaries.

But MV's are selling better than the Triumph's for the last 3 months- oddly enough.

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BrowningBAR

Hey, have you seen the Big Dig?!

ksquid

"As I said- if WE don't fix it- THEY will. Simply saying "it won't help" is leaving the ball in the politicans court and NONE of us will like THEIR solution!"

Ok you have my vote for AMA president... When can you start? Seriously you nailed it...

seruzawa

Oh, you mean the Mob Enhancement Project? I saw the thing about the concrete (!) ceiling tiles that were installed to govt standards.

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The_AirHawk

Dude, how would YOU know? You claim not to ever watch Fox - for someone who never watches it, you sure know a heluva lot about their programming. (I don't watch anything, but I DO have a good friend that works "behind the scenes" at Fox)

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Let them hate so long as they fear
политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян
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Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...

The_AirHawk

Ah.... I did it again. I'm not adding to this off-topic thread further. In fact, I think I'll stop responding to off-topic completely.



>sigh<

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Parfois, on fait pas semblant
Sometimes, it's not pretend
Oderint Dum Metuant
Let them hate so long as they fear
политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян
Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants
Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...

BrowningBAR

You were sooooo fished in.

bhiley

"lose"??