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Old 01-04-2007, 06:19 AM   #161
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Default 250 Ninja had a DOHC 16 valve 4 cylinder 4 carbs engine, with a red line at 18.500

I have noticed that where these laws are in effect the Japanese have specialized bikes.



You donÂ’t hear about them here in America, but there is a Ninja 250 available in Europe, Japan and Australia that is a whole different animal because of these laws.



Were talking about the Kawasaki Ninja ZXR 250: which was a model sold from 1988 to 1999.



This 250 Ninja had a DOHC 16 valve 4 cylinder 4 carbs engine, with a red line at 18.500 (to 20.000 RPM); dual front discs and inverted fully adjustable front fork.



See link for more info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasak...ZX-2R_/_ZXR250



It is pretty exciting to see what the manufacturers can come up with when they have to!

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Old 01-04-2007, 06:20 AM   #162
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Default 250 Ninja had a DOHC 16 valve 4 cylinder 4 carbs engine, with a red line at 18.500

I have noticed that where these laws are in effect the Japanese have specialized bikes.



You donÂ’t hear about them here in America, but there is a Ninja 250 available in Europe, Japan and Australia that is a whole different animal because of these laws.



Were talking about the Kawasaki Ninja ZXR 250: which was a model sold from 1988 to 1999.



This 250 Ninja had a DOHC 16 valve 4 cylinder 4 carbs engine, with a red line at 18.500 (to 20.000 RPM); dual front discs and inverted fully adjustable front fork.



See link for more info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasak...ZX-2R_/_ZXR250



It is pretty exciting to see what the manufacturers can come up with when they have to!

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Old 01-04-2007, 06:23 AM   #163
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Default Performance stats for Kawasaki Ninja ZX-2R / ZXR250

Performance stats for Kawasaki Ninja ZX-2R / ZXR250 as listed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasak...ZX-2R_/_ZXR250



0-60 mph (0-100 km/h) 3.8 seconds

Maximum speed 127 mph

Max power 45 hp (33.6 kW) @ 16000 RPM

Max Torque 24.5 Nm @ 11500 RPM

Fuel Efficiency 7l / 100 km @ 100 km/h
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:24 AM   #164
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Default Excellent Post... follow the data

It is amazing how emotional folks get about this issue to where folks will ignore common sense. My gut says tiered system will cut the number of crashes down and the severity down (i.e. more mass and power the more energy is in the crash).. I am sure if we looked compared the data from the UK,Australia, with the U.S., we would see evidence of the effectiveness of a tiered system. In addition, I think if we had a tiered system it would eliminate the posers because it would require a certain commitment and investment in getting a license for a big cruiser or powerful sportbike.



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Old 01-04-2007, 06:27 AM   #165
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Default Re: Power to Wait

Apples and oranges Nice try though
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:28 AM   #166
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Default Re: But we do have data

It happens to me all the time... easy boy..
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:29 AM   #167
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Default Re: Power to Wait

I say stick everyone on a 50cc scooter for a year before they can drive/ride anything else, from 600cc sportbikes to 5 ton urban assault vehicles. Then whoever survives can drive whatever the hell they want.
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:30 AM   #168
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Default Re: Power to Wait

Bull*****!

Riders should gain experiance handeling a smaller machine for at least a year before piloting a superbike. A 70hp bike wont go from 0 -100 in 2 sec, yet the adrenaline in a newbies blood will. Let 'em learn on the small bikes, and then get the thrills as they move up. No way to prove it but to have a controlled trial-which will not happen, but it makes good sense,
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:30 AM   #169
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Default Re: Power to Wait

n. An active pastime; diversion



Certainly "sport-bike & sports-car" blur the lines to what they are used for, IMHO.
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:31 AM   #170
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Statements like this are unacceptable. I lost a lot of friends over there, and then I have to come back and listen to this milquetoast bandy about accusations of blame on a motorcycle site. MO, please delete this post (and mine) as a service to us all. It is off topic and adds to the discussion in no meaningful way, and is an insult to what these people stand for. Thank you.



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