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Old 12-29-2006, 02:04 AM   #111
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Default Re: Motorcycle.com Sport-Tour 2006

"Bargain? Its not a bargain."



Really? I'd say it certainly is. But I guess I talk from facts and experience.



"At 11,700 the ABS model is not much less than FJR´s 13,800 (without the robo-shifter), a very small saving indeed considering all the disadvantages that the comparo points out."



In the real world (where most of us live) there are things called 'discounts'. You can get as much as $1500 off the Triumph. With the Yammy and BMW you get none. In fact, you have to put down $500 bucks at the beginning of the year to get a Yamaha, and you get it when they decide to deliver it. F&ck that. They can stick that sales model up their asses. No test rides either for Yamaha and I would NEVER EVER buy a motorcycle without a test ride. Maybe you would. I test rode a Sprint last year and it's a fantastic bike. So I'd say saving $2500 is a substantial difference, along with actually being able to ride the bike before purchase.



"And some that are not pointed out such as the big difference in power. Which kinda matters this being a sport-tourer comparo. Or one would think so. Of course there are those who don´t think power is important even in the power cruisers.



Funny you should mention power. These figures are from Motorcyclist magazine:



Power:

Triumph 121.3 hp/ 73.6 tq wet weight 552 lbs

Yamaha 127.2 hp/ 89.6 tq wet weight 687 lbs



Quarter Mile:

Triumph 10.88 @127.4 mph

Yamaha 11.86 @118.8 mph



60 - 80 top gear roll on:

Triumph 3.45 seconds

Yamaha 4.02 seconds





Looks like the Triumph has more horsepower per pound, kicks the Yamaha's ass in the quarter mile and roll on, and I bet it has a higher top speed to boot. Would you like to compare handling? I don't think so, as that nearly 700 lb pig of a Yamaha wouldn't stand a chance.



So let's add up the score. The Triumph is substantially cheaper, can be test ridden, handles better by a lot, is faster, quicker, more powerful in roll on tests, and has a unique triple motor instead of a 'me too' inline four. Hmmmm. Kind of sounds like a BARGAIN!

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Old 12-29-2006, 02:05 AM   #112
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Default Re: Motorcycle.com Sport-Tour 2006

Funny you should mention power. These figures are from Motorcyclist magazine:



Power:

Triumph 121.3 hp/ 73.6 tq wet weight 552 lbs

Yamaha 127.2 hp/ 89.6 tq wet weight 687 lbs



Quarter Mile:

Triumph 10.88 @127.4 mph

Yamaha 11.86 @118.8 mph



60 - 80 top gear roll on:

Triumph 3.45 seconds

Yamaha 4.02 seconds

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Old 12-29-2006, 02:09 AM   #113
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Default Re: 1/2 and 1/2

You're thinking of an R1. Except for a small plastic cover that runs around the very bottom of tank there is nothing plastic about it.



Get a magnet and go try to find a spot it doesn't stick if you don't believe me.
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:12 AM   #114
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See what I mean?



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Old 12-29-2006, 02:33 AM   #115
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Interesting. The Yamaha is slower than my '91 Zooker boat anchor. Why would I spend 13K for a heavier slower bike? Guess I'll keep the old clunker for two up touring.



I guess bikes haven't really changed all that much in the last 15 years no matter how much hype claiming otherwise.
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:36 AM   #116
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I'll bet they put on a lot more miles than the loudmouthed squids on CBRYZKZGSZs as well.
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:39 AM   #117
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Default Re: What, no VFR, no Ducati?

I rode both also, and you are 100% correct.
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:40 AM   #118
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Default Re: For $15,000, the choice is obvious

Yeah, bikes that only do 1/4 miles in the 11s and go 140+ mph are really slow. Who would want one? (eyes rolling.)
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:42 AM   #119
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Default Re: For $15,000, the choice is obvious

Better tell all the dealers in the US that have a Norge sitting on their showroom floors that the bike isn't real. And you might want to tell all the buyers who have them in their garages or are out riding them right now, their Norges don't exist.

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Old 12-29-2006, 02:48 AM   #120
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Absolutely. I can't figure how anybody wouldn't think the Sprint is quicker than the FJR, including our chief MOrons.



The other bikes, I'm sure, are very good but I don't want a 700lb. motorcycle, either. I'm sure they're perfect for some people, but I'm still young and fit enough to ride race reps, so any percieved disadvantages of the Sprint only make it more desireable in my book.



And even figuring service costs, the Sprint is still significantly cheaper to own.



The biggest problem with the Sprint is one that the MO crew astutely pointed out: It's kind of like a bigger, softer sportbike. My D955i will do pretty much the same thing (for solo riding) and is a far more capable sport bike. Still the Sprint seems to be the choice for those who want more sport in their tour.
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