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Old 09-14-2006, 01:35 PM   #111
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Default Re: 2006 Triumph Scrambler v. 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200R

Re the Sportster: "It all weighs in at a claimed 565 pounds dry and is offered at your local Harley dealer for $8,595 in plain black, $8,955 for colors."



Not at any dealer in this part of the country. Try $10,495. The Scrambler is about $2500 cheaper than the Sportster in actual price you will pay at the dealer around here.



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Old 09-14-2006, 01:43 PM   #112
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Default Re: 2006 Triumph Scrambler v. 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200R

So many bikes reviewed online are either 900 pound cruisers or 150hp sportbikes. Unfortunately, many people who buy those bikes are afraid of their own motorcycles. Consequently, their bikes are really garage art not bikes made for riding.



Both of these bikes have style plus an average rider can control them. So I think that they are a great value. Incidentally, nostalgia doesn't influence my view, since I am in my thirties.



Two things that make bikes alot easier to live with are centerstands and belt drive. Triumph offers an optional centerstand and the Harley has belt drive. In my view that tradeoff is important.
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Old 09-15-2006, 03:23 AM   #113
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Default Re: Does anyone really buy these things for performance???

You probably rode a 1910 bike. I regularly do 400 mile days on a 2000 ZX6R. I am 6-4 220 pds and have no problems with comfort. The bike is rock solid, and at 7800 rpm cruises nicely just above legal highway speeds limits.



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Old 09-15-2006, 03:32 AM   #114
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Default Re: 2006 Triumph Scrambler v. 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200R

The weight reported by Triumph is around 50 pounds off, BTW. The gravity in England may be off, but this is a chronic problem with Triumph.



HD, whatever its faults, seem to list actual weight and not some number pulled out of someone's a$$.



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Old 09-15-2006, 07:50 AM   #115
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Default Re: Does anyone really buy these things for performance???

"You probably rode a 1910 bike."



It felt like that.





I regularly do 400 mile days on a 2000 ZX6R.



The dairy queen must be far away





"I am 6-4 220 pds and have no problems with comfort."



You need to lose some weight dude.





The bike is rock solid, and at 7800 rpm cruises nicely just above legal highway speeds limits.



My bike is compliant, and at 3500 cruisers better than yours at near highway speeds.





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Old 09-16-2006, 01:01 PM   #116
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Default Re: 2006 Triumph Scrambler v. 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200R

Not gonna happen. Not with the "Too Much is Not Enough" way of thinking in the U.S.



Of course, that's the opposite of the U.K.'s "Not Enough is Too Much" line of thought; or France's "Too Enough is Not Much" style.....................
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Old 09-16-2006, 01:08 PM   #117
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How'd you know?



Waitaminute,............ You *KNOW* the guy, dontcha?
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Old 09-16-2006, 01:10 PM   #118
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In The Motor Company's eyes, weight=solid=value=$$$/pound.
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Old 09-17-2006, 04:36 AM   #119
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"Step up to the power of a 1250 or go crazy with an 88" today!"
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Old 09-17-2006, 10:12 AM   #120
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Default Re: 2006 Triumph Scrambler v. 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200R

What bothers me is that magazines / e-zines invest money in dynos, then don't bother to actually weigh their test machines. Forty or 50 pounds on a bike has a lot more effect on performance -- braking, handling, turning, etc... -- than five or 10 HPs.



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