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Old 09-13-2006, 11:21 AM   #91
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Default Re: 2006 Triumph Scrambler v. 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200R

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Old 09-13-2006, 11:22 AM   #92
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Default Re: 2006 Triumph Scrambler v. 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200R

It was '04.
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:45 AM   #93
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I saw an old geezer in the grocery store parking lot driving a green Pinto that was in pristine condition!



I'll bet he's had it since it was new.



I couldn't believe my eyes.
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:48 AM   #94
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Default Re: Does anyone really buy these things for performance???

Hence why my K12RS has a nice and quiet bone stock exhaust. $1000 to take 8hp I use 90% of the time and move it up to where I use it 2% of the time. That and then having to listen to the racket for hours on end, drowning out your music and irritating the neighbors. The intake honk is cool enough when I need to stir the soul and absent while motoring down the slab.
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Old 09-13-2006, 02:28 PM   #95
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Mert Lawwill's Street Tracker maybe? Or something from Steve Stroz?
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Old 09-13-2006, 02:41 PM   #96
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No, of course not. Those times are with someone really small and REALLY REALLY good at riding. Guys like Don Canet and Andrew Trevitt are faster than you, and that's the kind of magazine editor who gets those numbers.



But all things considered, those numbers DO count when comparing what the same rider can get out of a bike.
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Old 09-13-2006, 02:47 PM   #97
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You tend to ride a bike in the RPM range ~the bike~ is comfortable in. My V-Strom, which is the torque beast of Japanese sporty-ish bikes, is quite happy at 3-6K in normal use and has genuine soul at 7K to redline. And then my Ninja 250 lives at 7-11K. Talk about opposites....
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Old 09-13-2006, 04:53 PM   #98
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I'll bet it had a Kawasaki sticker in the rear window and a Boeing Corp parking pass on the windshield!
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Old 09-13-2006, 04:59 PM   #99
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Default Re: 2006 Triumph Scrambler v. 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200R

Yeah, well the dealers use that warranty work threat to sucker people into having their oil changes done at the dealership during the warranty period. Most people don't know that as long as you keep the receipts and any other evidence that you can do your own oil changes during the warranty.



$175 for a bike that needs as little routine maintenance as a Sportster is highway robbery. Sporty oil changes take about 10 minutes. On the old ones the valve check only took about 10 minutes. You don't even need a feeler gauge.
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Old 09-13-2006, 06:08 PM   #100
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Finally a review that looks at real life issues-real riding conditions, costs and ease of maintenance. Others have pointed out that maintenance is nil on the H-D and costs are ridiculous. I'll do my own oil changes...

Two weeks ago I took my first ride on an H-D, a Fat Boy, around Central California (thanks Eaglerider) and I, to my amazement loved the machine. I'm no MOron tester but I drove it straight, twisted, in plains and mountains on goat trails( up to the Lick Observatory above San Jose) and freeways and it was a blast. The ride blew my negative perceptions away. I really like the look of the 1200 Sportster, and the low maintenance issues are a real attraction. I ride year round approx 15,000 miles and chain drive, shim valve adjustments and all that old stuff doesn't hack it. Thanks MO for a decent, informative test, I hope you can try to focus more on the machines and less on the testers psychological issues. Sorry but I really don't care how you felt in high school.
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