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minime 02-16-2001 09:44 PM

Re: First Ride: Yamaha FZ-1
Please read the above post in regards to checking a bike over before mounting it.

As for the comparisons to the R1, Yamaha did bill the bike as an "R1 for the real-world." This encompasses more than just the motor. It referrs to the chassis which, although different by design, is to provide a similar degree of sportiness.

minime 02-16-2001 09:49 PM

Re: First Ride: Yamaha FZ-1
Wheat and others -

This was an intro with extremely limited riding time on roads that could best be described as adequate. To generate a whole lot of real data from the short ride would be next to impossible. And comparing it to other bikes? We could lie and make guesses, but we'd rather wait until we have the bikes side-by-side on some local, good roads for hundreds of miles before making blind assumptions.

That would be more of a disservice to all you readers than leaving out how seating positions differ between a Bandit 1200S and the FZ1 when the two bikes are, quite literally, oceans apart.

ironhead83 02-17-2001 12:09 AM

Re: First Ride: Yamaha FZ-1
cool guy, understand why you wrote the article the way you did. Me I am glad that the fZ1 is not a R1 with high bars. To many potholes and sand traps out here to even think of driving R1 style. I'm getting an FZ to turn it into a sport tourer, the RT and ST are too vanilla for me but I still want a bike to pull distance with. Sides the price is 7K less and that will buy a lot of plastic for the FZ, the big bandito looked good but I havent had real good luck with suzuk's and the FZ should be able to keep up with my buddies valk's.

rvfrules 02-17-2001 12:10 AM

Re: Review falls short
Fair enough Brent, and I hope my criticism didn't obscure my appreciation of MO making the effort to do the review in the first place. I, and judging from the posts a lot of other people as well, am looking forward to more info on the FZ-1, and an eventual shootout including the Bandit, Speed Triple and ZXR1200. In the meantime, how about a VFR800 vs. Bandit shootout? If I'm not mistaken, MO has long-termers of both sport-tourers.

nick_nolastname 02-17-2001 12:13 AM

Thats the spirit! Whats a finger or two compared to the exilerating performance of the Yamaha Fazer. I would rather give up my pinky fingers however. Without my thumbs it will be difficult to pull the clutch in. Would you be interested in starting an 8-fingered club for Fazer fans? I know a "doctor" who will do the work for free. Although I cannot afford a Fazer at this time I am accepting contributions. Rock on.

wheat 02-17-2001 01:39 AM

Re: First Ride: Yamaha FZ-1
Point well taken.

wheat 02-17-2001 01:41 AM

Re: First Ride: Yamaha FZ-1
Say, thanks for the wallpaper image.

Any chance we could get the image at the top of the article?

badsac 02-17-2001 02:48 AM

Re: Review falls short
I hope you're not having a go at me minime.

I was showing my support for blip in my above post. I was just getting a little fed up with some foolish posts from some people on this topic.

fuzzione 02-17-2001 03:39 AM

OK, I'm sorry...
My slam against your literary content may indeed be undeserved considering the limited time spent with the FZ. It must be obvious by now I'm in that "40-ish" cranky-old-dude category. Starving for FZ details at that. Yes, I have a deposit on one albeit fully refundable if necessary.

I hope you accept my apology to the extent you can find it in yourselves to at least address points 1) - 5) above. I don't believe you need a full-blown test to simply clarify some of the statements already made in your article.


DCH3HASHER 02-17-2001 04:05 AM

Re: First Ride: Yamaha FZ-1
I like the blend of style, performance and practicality. What's missing is fuel injection and a center stand.

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