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Old 11-03-2005, 04:53 PM   #1
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Default Re: Tours of Victory: Seattle, the Long Way

Ha First post!! Why do all cruiser storys start with how much cruisers suck, and end with gee they weren't so bad. Is this the sport bike forum?
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:14 PM   #2
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Yes, this is the sportbike forum, in which cruiser reviews are peppered with questions such as, "Why don't my wrists hurt?" and "Why won't this bike do 17,000 rpm?" and performance data on the order of "how many people looked at us outside the restaurant and thought we were cool because of this bike."
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:23 PM   #3
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Sportbike good. Cruiser bad, very bad.......

If I ran out of gas, I would rather push a 400 lb sportbike than a 600 lb cruiser, but hey I try to not run out of gas....
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:35 PM   #4
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From the report:



"They're cruisers. They are limited by their shape, motor configuration and chassis design to be low-speed scenery-enjoyment devices. Of course, we do like to enjoy scenery when we travel, but a better-handling sport-tourer or standard would let us enjoy the scenery or make it blur..."



Which begs the question, why do motorcycles have to be either/or? Harley, of all people, is the only cruiser maker who has put any effort into building a cruiser with handling and cornering clearance.



People love the sound and feel of big, torquey, slow-turning, narrow-angle, single-crankpin V-twins. They also love going around corners.



Here's an idea: Why not put the two together?!
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:22 PM   #5
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Yamaha Warrior? Victory 8-ball?
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:34 PM   #6
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Hey, they tested them, didn't they. By definition cruisers aren't built, marketed or generally purchased for this duty.

The other names used to describe bikes like "sport," "tour" or "dirt" may take some more research before I decide what task they are intended to carry out.



Gabe, you were just wearing one of your radio earplugs while you were in CA.....right?
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:34 PM   #7
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How come the greatest industrial power on Earth, the nation that put a man on the Moon nearly 40 years ago, still hasn't learnt to build a bike that's not a piece of farm machinery? Where's the vision, the inspiration, the technology? We're even seeing the Koreans and Chinese take on the Japanese and Europeans. Has the US lost something?
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Old 11-03-2005, 10:14 PM   #8
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because they are so far a head you would not buy the first attempt.
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:06 AM   #9
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I'd say you were correct, but the fact that the Japanese have been tripping over themselves for the last 20 years to copy Harley says volumes about where 'technology' lies in the grand scheme of things. If you like your motorcycle because it has more technology than the others, I'd say you are riding for the wrong reason.
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:33 AM   #10
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"If you like your motorcycle because it has more technology than the others, I'd say you are riding for the wrong reason."



Only in America, where bikes are used mainly as a hobby object, would someone say that. In particular, most cruisers are just a means to an end i.e. a object used to join groups or a social vehicle.



Some of us, albeit a minority in the U.S. , ride bikes for "sport". We love adrenalin we get from riding a high performance vehicle. For those of us who love technology, things like ABS, advanced suspensions, high performance, agility matter.



By the way.....There is no right or wrong reason to ride



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