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Old 08-18-2005, 04:55 AM   #21
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How long have you had them? Are they holding up well?



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Old 08-18-2005, 05:16 AM   #22
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Default Re: Kymco Venox Review: The Perfect First Bike?

80 pounds heavier? Light/cheap/strong: pick two.
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Old 08-18-2005, 05:17 AM   #23
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Sounds good for someone actually planning to keep their first bike.



The problem, however, is that even when people are smart enough to buy a "starter" bike, they're already thinking about the next bike. I would have to guess that the resale on this would be attrocious - kinda like the Blast



I agree though, that if they just HAVE to have a cruiser style bike, then this sounds like a good option.
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Old 08-18-2005, 05:36 AM   #24
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Stonedog, Kymco has a rather large dealer network in the USA. This is a Taiwanese company NOT a mainland Chinese company; big difference. Their stuff is very high quality and they have proven themselves for over 40 years. It's a new world, like it or not. FWIW, their scooters are top notch too. I ride both motorcycles and vintage geared scooters, and for those that have never ridden a "tuned" Vespa or Lambretta geared scooter you're missing out on a lot of amazing two wheeled machinery.
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Old 08-18-2005, 05:41 AM   #25
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I'm trying to figure out why so many people seem to think that Taiwan is China.
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:00 AM   #26
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"They took our JORBS!"
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:17 AM   #27
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Semi-skilled laborers getting wages/compensation/retirement packages that many far more highly skilled people would kill for and they wonder why their jobs went away. Simply amazing.



I spent a couple of very enjoyable weekends in Taiwan a number of years ago. Probably the best time I ever had in the Orient. More power to 'em, I say.
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:19 AM   #28
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I think it is from all the product packaging that reads:



"Made In Taiwan, R.O.C"
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:20 AM   #29
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...so, did you get the south park reference or not?
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:32 AM   #30
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Lots of valid points, but right or wrong I think the trend is irreversible, we will fall flat on our faces, the question is just when....cheap labor, enviroment and oil dependancies will break the American worker and our society as we know it.
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