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sportbikebandit 06-07-2005 09:25 AM

Re: '05 BMW K1200S - U.S. Test

maladg 06-07-2005 09:38 AM

Re: Fritz never learns...
Who knew puppet bootknocking would be so - well - attractive!

mile_eater 06-07-2005 10:46 AM

Re: '05 BMW K1200S - U.S. Test
dude... that's the windshield... nothing can be done about it.

SV650GLEN 06-07-2005 12:09 PM

Re: '05 BMW K1200S - U.S. Test
I notice you testers were wearing the obligatory Beemer riding gear. Aerostich. I wear one on my SV650. If I'm shopping in a store wearing my stich, people come up and say "You must ride a BMW".



mile_eater 06-07-2005 12:35 PM

Re: '05 BMW K1200S - U.S. Test
Umm.. because the Busa's ugly... and not nearly as comfortable?

bladehandler 06-07-2005 01:53 PM

Re: '05 BMW K1200S - U.S. Test
Great review, thanks gents.

Sean, educate me-

In the dyno test you only used the clutch between 1st & 2nd gears then popped through the other 4 gears without bothering.

Does this improve straight line acceleration? Is this damaging to the transmission or other mechanisms? Wassup?

travisyoung 06-07-2005 02:29 PM

Re: everybody please just abandon fuel injection
Guzzi has FI right, but who would have guessed that Guzzis even had fuel injection?

GS1100GK 06-07-2005 02:46 PM

Re: '05 BMW K1200S - U.S. Test
Nice review guys. I like the ESA option but that is not enough for me to trade my Kawasaki ZZR1200 for.

pdad13 06-07-2005 04:35 PM

Okay, I'm not Sean...
...and will never be able to ride like him, but I'll take a stab at answering your question.

Theoretically, clutchless upshifting will improve accelleration--if you do it right. There's less lag time for clutch work and engine RPM doesn't drop much. Motorcycles have a constant mesh transmission, so the upshift minus clutch won't do any damage--if you do it right. (I do not suggest clutchless downshifting.)

Now, "to do it right," all you have to do is unload the transmission for a split second by shutting the throttle ever-so-briefly. With a little bit of upward pressure on the shifter, it'll snick right into gear. Once you get good at it, if feels like one motion.

(Racebikes have quick shifters that cut engine spark briefly through a sensor wired to detect pressure on the shifter so the rider doesn't have to manually unload the tranny.)

Will it improve your street riding? I doubt it, but it's fun to do. On the track, it's preferred.

Now, I'm guessing that Sean uses the clutch between first and second gear (as I do) because most bikes prefer to be shifted with the clutch there; the difference in ratios between 1 & 2 are farther apart, making the 1-2 clutchless upshift kind of sloppy and herky-jerky.

Did I forget anything, Sean?

pdad13 06-07-2005 04:42 PM

Re: '05 BMW K1200S - U.S. Test
First off, the K looks better in a solid color. Although, the huge wheelbase is distracting; it just looks too long. I'd almost expect outriggers.

But I'll have to stand by my initial impression: Other than the ESA, this bike doesn't do anything much better than any bike out there now.

Still, I welcome it. More cool bikes is never a bad thing and this one will have its audience. But, boy, they really should get the bugs worked out--especially at the prices they charge.

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