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Old 04-11-2005, 03:43 PM   #81
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Great review.

A technical point on the dyno videos: The built in microphone on the camcorder is cutting out all the bass sounds of the engine, and the echos off the walls are muddying-up the rest of it. How about starting off the video with an up-close of the engine idling.

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Old 04-12-2005, 05:52 AM   #82
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"It seems as if every time you switch on the television, there is some tough-looking guy in a big garage with other tough-looking guys, screwing together..." What the hell channels you watchin', Gabe?



Good article, but for the money I'd go for a Rocket III. At "real" speeds there just isn't a substitute for torque.
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Old 04-12-2005, 01:54 PM   #83
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No editing, you! The rest of the sentence goes,"wild-looking, stretched-out creations with chrome S&S motors."



No gay porn channel yet, although we did come up with some names for one. Dirty suggests "The Back Door Network", or "Chaps!".
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Old 04-15-2005, 10:11 PM   #84
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You heard wrong... that engine's been around for over 20 years and I've personally seen them with over 100K on them.
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Old 06-29-2005, 09:35 AM   #85
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Honda seems to have discovered a successful formula here. Offer a massive and modular cruiser platform with gobs of torque and all the right lines, pick your fender style and color, then decide how much chrome you can afford. You can ride away with additional accessories as well, knowing that you saved about five-grand over a stripped soft-tail.



Don't get me wrong. I love the idea of owning a "genuine" Harley Davidson, but it's hard to argue with the value and reliability of an American made Honda cruiser. Especially one with the bad ass, drag bike styling of the VTX 1800 F.



Two grown men could argue the boring points... like resale value, fuel economy and badges, but the next generation of cruiser buyers, (in my opinion), are less inclined to buy into the past rhetoric of HD stumpers. This 1800 F is what we design guys call- "Wicked".



After all, the man... (or woman), that chooses the VTX 1800- will smoke 99% of the cruiser/customs out there... "in style", and I really think that's the bottom line in this market segement. Nice read MO!
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Old 06-29-2005, 11:01 AM   #86
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Not exactly! HD dealers sell 95% of their bikes at the listed retail price or higher. In contrast, the Honda dealers have much more flexibility in pricing below MSRP. Here's a real world example where I compared two comparable, if not equally featured bikes:



I priced a 2005 softail deuce against a 2005 VTX 1800 F (Spec 3). Both dealers worked up their best price for me as a cash buyer. The deuce was $18,587... out the door without tax. The VTX was $13,099 out the door without tax. That's well over a $5000 difference.



The Dyna-Glide is also a nice ride. I compared it as well, but the VTX numbers, including price, performance and style, were just too strong.



I'll take a small hit on resale compared to the HD's, but I'll take the purchase savings and invest in a 5.000% bond... and come out on top in 5 years...



Although, my final decision was never really about the money. I really think Honda builds a better bike here. It's not a flawless ride, and the HD's have some strong points, but it's made in America and reliable as an atomic clock, with the low end torque of a John Deere tractor.



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