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zzrwood 04-01-2005 12:24 AM

Re: 2005 BMW R 1200 ST and RT
 
Great reviews - Can't wait to try the RT.



Wow - first post!



Robert

Brisbane, Australia

'04R1150RT

zzrwood 04-01-2005 12:25 AM

Re: 2005 BMW R 1200 ST and RT
 
BTW - Are they REALLY that good or is this an April Fool's review?



Cheers



Robert

Brisbane, Australia

'04R1150RT

SeanAlexander 04-01-2005 12:29 AM

Re: 2005 BMW R 1200 ST and RT
 
No foolin Robert. They are vastly improved compared to the '04 R 1150.

zzrwood 04-01-2005 12:34 AM

Re: 2005 BMW R 1200 ST and RT
 
Bugger - looks like I'll have to start grovelling to the wife sooner than i thought...



;-)



Cheers



Robert

SeanAlexander 04-01-2005 12:35 AM

Re: 2005 BMW R 1200 ST and RT
 
Sorry M'8

naco_traficante 04-01-2005 02:17 AM

R/K/ST/RT=Alphabet Suppe
 
Can anyone familiar with BMW's naming conventions please explain what their letters are supposed to indicate ? I have always wondered...


cyclesteve 04-01-2005 02:32 AM

Re:How bout a R1200S
 
I am looking forward to a R1200S. Anyone have any dirt on when it might be?

xlr8r 04-01-2005 03:21 AM

Re: R/K/ST/RT=Alphabet Suppe
 
Okay, here goes. R is for Rad, which means bicycle. BMW make aircraft engines and cars as well, you know. Early R numbers are model numbers, but later ( post '68) they indicate capacity as well, so R1100 is 1100 cc, and so on. K is for a German word I've forgotten meaning 'project', since they spent ages designing their first non-boxer engine in the early 1980s, known only by its K number, but when it was released to the public they decided to call all the in-line engines Ks: K100, K75, and so on.

ST in this case (2005 R1200ST) means Sport Touring. RT is their usual label for their fairing-and-luggage tourer: when the first R100RT came out in the mid 1970s it was said to stand for Rally Touring, i.e. going a long way and taking your camping gear with you, as opposed to the sleeker RS, or Rally Sport, where you took less gear with you and stayed in hotels! There was an earlier ST, the R80ST, in the early 1980s, which was a street-tyred version of the original R80G/S ( note the slash) where the ST stood for street, or Strasse in German. G/S, by the way, stood for Gelande/Strasse, or Off-road/Street. More modern G/s's have lost their slash and are just GS. Does that help clear the fog?

anrajala 04-01-2005 03:22 AM

Re: R/K/ST/RT=Alphabet Suppe
 
It means Bauhaus Movilische Wöchter. They used to be one of the leading mobile home manufacturers in lower Wüppertal before the war.



- cruiz-euro

maladg 04-01-2005 03:44 AM

Re: 2005 BMW R 1200 ST and RT
 
Yup, this appears to be what I've been waiting years for. Any of the three in fact.



Knowing BMW, I'd better hold off until the first round of updates are done. The ole pfennig pinchers are way slow in fixing glitches. Heck, they NEVER fixed some of the Type 247 problems - weak charging, crappy coils, etc. In fact they took actions to cause problems such as dropping the circlip from the tranny mainshaft on late 247 - only to quietly put it back for the last 1-200 bikes produced.



Maybe this will finally get me off the duff and kiss the ST11 (aka The Fat Lady) and the R100RT (monolever generation) goodby. Could finally be time to move on.....



Do any of you recall Burns positive reviews of the R11/1150RT's at his ex? Gasp! It is true!



Nice article in current issue of Automobile re BMW & Mercedes' quality problems and steps being taken to rectify. Lets hope that bleeds over to the bikes.



































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