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Old 04-03-2005, 04:49 PM   #71
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Default ST is FUUUGLY!!!!

Saw an R1200ST and R1200RT in person driving on the freeway today.



The RT looks OK in person, a bit Animeish (and not quite as CoolAnime as the Honda ST1300). But the R1200ST is SO F#(@)$* FUGLY its unbelievable. And when you realize just how insanely expensive that fugly monster is, I don't see how they will sell...

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Old 04-04-2005, 02:35 AM   #72
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Default Re:How bout a R1200S



KTM's 624 SMC is street legal from the factory....although difficult to get. I bought one last year but have simply never used it, a second bike for me that I spent more time drooling over then riding....it's on ebay now, do a search for 625 SMC.



My other bike is a 2003 1150 GS, love it but in the process of upgrading to a new Adventure.



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Old 04-04-2005, 03:31 AM   #73
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Default Re: 2005 BMW R 1200 ST and RT

I am amazed at the number of ST reviews that complain about the bars being either too low, narrow or forward. I quess it makes sense at 140 on the autobahn. I know my ST1100 and K75s both benefited from bar replacement/relocation. The after market seems to be doing ok with replacement bars, bar risers, bar extenders, bar relocators, etc. BMW, hows about some useful options here? And get rid of that stupid headlight on the ST. Otherwise, I think I could grow to love the 1200 ST.
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Old 04-04-2005, 04:27 AM   #74
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Default Re: 2005 BMW R 1200 ST and RT

Yep... I thought so...



Hopefully it turns up in a couple of weeks... gawd I hates waiting...





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Old 04-04-2005, 07:28 AM   #75
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Crap! Just when I thought I had my finances under control, along comes this bike. I think I can spare a kidney. I haven't seen many bikes worth their $18,000 price tag but I think this is one. Great test and good video information. I really like the voice with the video.
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Old 04-04-2005, 09:28 AM   #76
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Default Re: 2005 BMW R 1200 ST and RT

Thanks sailor! I'm often informed that my voice sounds like: "a young Michael Douglas on steriods". -Sean
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Old 04-04-2005, 03:21 PM   #77
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Default Re: 2005 BMW R 1200 ST and RT

Please do a sport-tourer comparo between the RT or ST, the FJR, the ST1300 and the new Sprint ST. Looks like it'll be a real match up!
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Old 04-04-2005, 03:39 PM   #78
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Default Re: 2005 BMW R 1200 ST and RT

Rode the ST at Foothills BMW in Denver this weekend. I only rode it on the approved "test loop," probably about 7 miles, so I didn't get a chance to see how it handled on the good roads outside of Morrison and Red Rocks, only minutes away. The seat seemed to want to put me very close to the tank ... good for sport handling, less so for long distance. The power was wonderful... plenty of stonk on tap low in the rev range. Also, very little vibration. This bike shifted much more smoothly than any Boxer I've ever ridden. Much smoother, in fact, than my Triumph Sprint ST. But speaking of that bike, against which the R1200ST will certainly be compared, I have to think the Triumph, at some $4,000 less expensive, will be the one people buy.
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Old 04-04-2005, 04:24 PM   #79
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Nice reviews, Sean. Thanks.
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Old 04-04-2005, 07:57 PM   #80
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The 2005 BMW R 1200 ST front must be the ugliest in the world.
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