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Old 01-28-2005, 03:05 PM   #51
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or she'll call the police and you'll be a registered sex offender for the rest of your life...
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:09 PM   #52
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By the time they wiped the smile off her face so she could testify, there would be ample opportunity to escape. VWW
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:13 PM   #53
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I wasn't sure if you were being ironic or not. I'm sure that some kids are born with the talent to hop on and go like Hell...not me...but somebody.



I realize that if 600s are rode responsibly, they can be great for beginners. Too bad, teenagers aren’t generally responsible (I know I wasn’t’). A four-year-old will take the news that there’s no Santa Claus better than a teenager will receive information about having limits. Honestly, I sometimes think that sport bikes are nothing more than an elegant-collaborator in the process of natural selection (idiots are protected by law, so ya gotta kill ‘em somehow…Christ’s sake, it’s not like they’re an endangered species).



I liked the way Buell did things with the Blast: You buy it, You ride it, You learn the ropes, You bring it back the next year, and they give you all your money back as a trade-in; Great IdeaÂ…but, it didnÂ’t work. Nobody wanted to be the guy riding a B-Last, when their friends were on super sports.



For a long time, I thought it would be a great idea if a manufacturer made only one awesome sport bike frame, and a progressive series of cassette-type engines that could be swapped as the rider progressed. That way, a kid would have mondo control at the beginning – while fooling around with a smaller engine – and better familiarity with the bike as the engines got more powerful (And, somewhere in the back of his mine, he could hear the wry voice of Robert Redford (as the Sundance Kid) saying, "Keep thinkin Butch! That’s what you’re good at!").



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Old 01-28-2005, 03:23 PM   #54
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Think about this for a second longride. If idiot boy spends a few more weeks at the gym he will be comfortable on the bike that is best suited for his skills, a YSR 50. VWW
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Old 01-28-2005, 04:07 PM   #55
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Default I honestly don't dislike you, Kpaul, but...

How can you maintain, while in your thirties, such a predisposition for Black & White thinking? For most, stubbornly adhering to such a childish notion as "Mines is better than your, and I donÂ’t care what you say!" is out-grown when they are in their early twenties. Is this some kind of fantasy schoolyard for you, where you can no longer get beat-up?



While others said you needed therapy, I felt compelled, out of compassion, to hold my tongue. Now, since youÂ’ve been censured, and nearly expelled, and you still refuse to alter your behavior, I also believe that youÂ’re actions are evidence of a more-than-moderate personality disorder. I truly do not like saying any of this to you; but out of conscience, I donÂ’t think I have a choice.



So, please, take a deep breath, get on your bike, ride to the clinic and get help.



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Old 01-28-2005, 04:37 PM   #56
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If things ever get stableized in Iraq, it will be interesting to see how the new Iraqi govenment deals with disedents, when the Press and the US are gone. Culturally, I don't believe the people of Iraq tend to as forgiving as we are. So, I'm expecting a quiet blood-bath.



I refues to make a cultural value judgment; they have the tenants of the own cuture, and conscience, to deal with. Still, from my Western point of view, it will be tragic.
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Old 01-28-2005, 05:30 PM   #57
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If you want to tell someone what you think, OK. If you want to tell someone what you do, OK. If you tell us what to think, what to do, & what to ride, well that's just you imposing the insecurities in your head on people who are obviously better off without them. You like RR's? Good for you, enjoy them. Just don't look down on the rest of us because we don't need more horsepower between our legs.
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Old 01-28-2005, 07:51 PM   #58
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I put 16000 iles on my 2002 954 in 11 months, freeway to work, canyons to work, and canyons, it was a great bike but honestly too much bike, i ALWAYS had to watch it and unless i was on an entrance ramp with no traffic couldn't hold the throttle open for more than a few seconds. 20-110+ on before even getting on the highway. I loved it but sold it and got a '99 VFR 800.



i went just as fast on the VFR ('cept getting on the highway) as the 954, but it was so heavy, and I know they say it has midrange but the power was so bland it bored me to tears, plus kind'a pushed the front end. In the end I sold it too. to heavy and kind's ugly.



Well I bought a red one (I like to be seen by car drivers if at all possible) last week for 9K OTD. I have ridden it twice. Once to work on the 10 to the 405 to the 101 to the 134 (26 miles each way) and it was fine, can't say much about the power since i didn't get it over 8500 or so but it didn't have much trouble getting out of it's own way so that was good. There was a bit of a buzz on the free way and it was a bit taunt but i haven't played with the suspention. The steering is sharp, sharper than the 954, very tight and direct an lots of feel (think holding the axel in your hands kind of feel, amazing really)

The other time was up in the SSM (where the photos were taken) and yes the roads were for sh*t lots of rock and wet patches and a general film of dirt on the road, add that i haden't ridden in about 4 months and i was pretty slow.



Still i was able to get a taste of the bike at the top of piuma and a the far side of mohulland, and i can see great potential.



it has a wild rush like the 954 had but enough grunt to run a gear higher as long as you aren't afraid to carry some corner speed in. And it feels very adjustable, in the corner, all be it i was going at some pretty low speeds.



As far as this bring a started bike.... I have been riding sport bikes almost every day exclusivly since '87 i.e. this last 4 months was just about the longest span I have gone with out riding since i started, and i thought I always wanted the bigger CBr 600 size, 100 HP. I have to say not much fun, not much fun at all. It had tons of power and I could wheelie any time I wanted but i was ALWAYS, ALWAYS on my mind how mcu power i had and how easy it was to break the back end loose, or lift the front coming out of a turn or a quick transition. Even this 600 can go way faster than 97% of the guys out there (including me) and 100% of the safety zone for the roads we ride on. maybe i am getting old but to think of this bike as a "starter" to ride for a year till you cab get 1000 HP just smacks of insanity. This from a guy who uesd to pass 1000's all the time on my SRX 250 (air cooled single) on the crest (on the way down that is, honestly could get much over 70 going up the crest, but i didn't go much less that 70 either



Any way great bike, love it can't wait to take it for a 400 mile shake down cruise this weekend, look for the bike number 27 on my jacket.



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Old 01-28-2005, 10:26 PM   #59
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Good point. I also agree about the benefit of articles about a broad range of bikes - I think the MO article about the Husky SMR was what really got me interested in buying one - the print mags sure didn't have any riding reviews.



I think the "racetrack focus" comments are a tad overblown, though. I've owned a few 4-cyl sportbikes (CBR900 & 929, GSXR750) and a Ducati 748, and they were all pretty comfortable on the freeway or any highway with speeds above 75 or so, which has been pretty common for my commuting over the years. None of them were all that great in stop & go traffic, especially the 748, but the wind protection and feeling of stability on all of them felt better the faster I travelled. And I'm a 58 year old geezer, although my runs are generally longer than 3 miles.
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Old 01-29-2005, 02:25 AM   #60
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Default Re: I honestly don't dislike you, Kpaul, but...

We were all wondering how long it would take for you to finally see the truth.
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