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Old 08-31-2004, 04:19 AM   #11
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Default Re: 2004 MO Sport Touring Shootout

Well, that was worth waiting for!



Surprise! The FJR wins again. It was one of "those motorcycles" that I instantly liked when I sat on one at Laguna Seca the year it was introduced. The ergos seemed tailored to my dimensions. I turn green with envy every time I see one in the road. Someday!!! It seems to sell well every year. How come Yamaha doesn't import a few more? Are they leaving money on the table or artificially keeping demand (and prices) high?



The other surprise (to me) was the K bike coming in behind the boxer. That heat problem must've been pretty bad. Oh well, I prefer the looks of the RT.
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Old 08-31-2004, 04:47 AM   #12
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Old 08-31-2004, 04:51 AM   #13
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The Boxer was more nimble, more comfortable and easier to ride. The K bike had better brakes, power and looks. If you want to drag race or pose, the K-GT will beat the RT. Otherwise, the RT is a nicer way to cover long distances over twisty roads. -Sean
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Old 08-31-2004, 04:51 AM   #14
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About a month ago I bought a new 2004 ZZR1200 and decked it out with a full bag set from GIVI and optional 3" taller windshield form KawasakiÂ*and it is the best motorcycle I've ever owned and I've been riding for 27 years.Â* It may not have the electric adjustable windshield, ABS,Â*and computer do-dads that some of it's competitors have (ST1300, FJR1300), but I do not think they are needed.Â* Plus, I paid about $4000.00 less out the doorÂ*even fully equipping the bike with theÂ*full set of GIVI luggage.

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The ZZR1200 has lot's of good things going for it.Â* First, it has aÂ*mighty powerful motor.Â* The last dyno I've seen says 145 hp (you guys say 140) at the rear wheel (even withÂ*catalytic converters) not counting ram air with about 186 mph top end!Â* One thingÂ*overlooked by some people is that this bike has aÂ*600 watt alternator.Â* Great for the electricÂ*underwearÂ*some of us must wear to rideÂ*year round, plus some electric do-dads if I so desire.Â* The ZZR1200Â*has a fully adjustable suspension front and rear.Â*Â*The last 2002 road test I saw and this one said the front only had preload adjust.Â* Mine has preload and dampening adjustment all aroundÂ*which has to be better thanÂ*Yamaha'sÂ*hard/soft adjustability on the rear.Â*



The luggage from GIVI is first rate.Â* Some magazines have criticized it's looks and how the bike looks with them off, but you cannot argue with the functionality of these bags.Â* They hold a tonÂ*of stuff,Â*are weather proof, and come off with a push of one button to take with you.Â* Plus, the GIVI V46 trunk can be ordered with a trick brake light kit that matches the round tail lights of the bike. Cool indeed.

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I'm sorry to see that you guys rated it last in this comparison. I ride my ZZR 120 miles per day and get 45 mpg doing 80+ mph and the suspension and riding position seem fine to me. I do agree that the riding position is a little more sport, but that can be corrected with Helibars or Genmars for not much cash. I have to also admit that I am smitten by the power of the thing and have to constantly remind myself to watch my speed. One last thought concerning the engine buzz. I only experience the buzz between 4500-5000 RPM and the thing is smooth on either side of that range.



Anyway, nice test. I guess I'll have to take satisfaction in the fact that I can out run any of the other sport tourers without a thought since engine power is about the only category that it won and the fact that I have at least $4000.00 more cash in my pocket by buying the ZZR.
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Old 08-31-2004, 04:56 AM   #15
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Default and another thing...

... and any opinions how the Aprilia Futura would have ranked in this group - I know you-all evaluated it last year.
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:08 AM   #16
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You'd have to do something about the footpegs also. The ZZR has tiny footpegs mounted relatively high compared to the others.



The power though...oh good god the power!
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:18 AM   #17
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I figure if I can't fix the pegs I can just saw a few inches off my legs. Which one was your fav Buz?
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:22 AM   #18
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I was torn between the FJR and the K1200. The BMW would have (would of) been perfect in a nice cool place like Germany. Since most of my riding is in the Southwest I had to go with the Yamaha. The GT is a roaster. It didn't take well to LA's traffic either.
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:28 AM   #19
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Default HA!

What a great read. With all the updates to the FJR I figured she would come out on top. Sounds to me like everyone was pretty suprised by the Honda. She has a reputation of bein' a pig, but something tells me that got started by Kpaul.



I don't know what it is about the ST1300. I love the lines... and it appears to be a motorcyle they put a lot of thought into. The fairing bumpers... the fold down handle to make centering her so easy...



But then again... I love linked-brakes...
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Old 08-31-2004, 05:33 AM   #20
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I found the ST the least attractive of the bunch. The styling was just to Yu Gi Oh! for me. I'm 5-10 and it was just kind of buffety at speed. Great midrange punch though!
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