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Old 08-31-2004, 01:53 PM   #91
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Default The Voting Matrix is Great



By the way, Guys, I really like the voting/ranking system.</p>
<blockquote>[*]Subjective Angle
<blockquote>[*]favorite bike[*]bike I'd buy[*]most comfortable[*]best handling[*]least comfortable[*]least favorite</blockquote>[*]Objective Angle
<blockquote>[*]most powerful motor[*]lowest cost</blockquote></blockquote>


Nice work.</p>
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Old 08-31-2004, 02:21 PM   #95
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Default Re: 2004 MO Sport Touring Shootout

great piece. i may even renew for a year in the hope of reading another article like that at least once in the next 12 month period.



didn't quite get the comments on the beemer rt linked braking. the brakes are "partially" integrated on the rt. foot brake works just the rear brake. hand brake works both unless foot brake also engaged, in which case the linkage disconnects and control is conventional. if you got nose dive by using only the rear brake, what were you doing using only the rear brake in the first place?



also interesting that the gt got the heat complaints. the bulletin boards for the fjr and the st1300 have lots of talk about excess heat. maybe honda and yamaha have worked out the kinks.
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Old 08-31-2004, 02:38 PM   #96
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Default Re: 2004 MO Sport Touring Shootout

Our first day was about 600+ miles or so. That might have changed your mind about the ZZR riding position. It's got tiny footpegs.
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Old 08-31-2004, 02:44 PM   #97
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Default Subjective versus Objective

And the bike with the best objective ratings (most powerful motor and almost-lowest cost) came in last.



The RT1150, with the least-powerful engine and relatively high price, came in second. The subjective wins again.



So much for rating (or buying) a bike based on specifications. I guess you do have to actually ride the things to know how good they are.



These sport-tourer things are more than the sum of their parts.
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Old 08-31-2004, 02:59 PM   #98
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Default Re: 2004 MO Sport Touring Shootout

longride, put on a fresh worm and keep an eye on your bobber.
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Old 08-31-2004, 03:00 PM   #99
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It's really not easy being right all the time.
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Old 08-31-2004, 03:02 PM   #100
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Default Re: 2004 MO Sport Touring Shootout

Nah, the horsepower limit has no fear. There has been a persistent shifting problem from 3rd down to 2nd since I owned it. Classic symptom of a bent shifter fork. Well now there is no shifting problem. It won't come out of 3rd unless I keep prodding the lever and playing with the throttle. I think a trans rebuild is in order, since I haven't done that yet. The big reason yours all work is you don't have any Harleys! LOL
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