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Old 05-22-2004, 04:44 AM   #11
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Default Re: Casual Protective Gear

I wear a JR Ballistic 4.0 jacket and pants combo if it's wet out, like from November to May, then armored leather pants and jacket the rest of the time.

I have to admit I've put more than a few miles on in jeans and a sweater when we get those blistering 75 degree summer days. I always wear boots and a helmet though

The only problem with the JR pants is the knee pads are long and narrow, while the pants are fairly baggy so chances are if you fall the knee pad isn't going to be in the right place to help you. They are waterproof though....That's why I like my leather pants, the knee pad wraps all the way from seam to seam and stays in place. On hot days things do get a little warm but I figure it's worth it most of the time, the rest of the time I just take my chances in jeans.
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Old 05-22-2004, 05:03 AM   #12
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Default Re: Yes, grasshopper...

He he.... thought you were talking about Ashley for a sec......



Damn -- of course you are right. Especially since I got me a couple of these too. There are just some events that are so awful that after a while you just learn to block them out.



Say master -- grasshopper is new to this whole motojournalism biz but aren't clothing models supposed to have bigger pecs than bellys??



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Old 05-22-2004, 05:05 AM   #13
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Default Draggin' Jeans Fit

The standard draggin' jeans fit is very close to a pair of 501's except that they run about an inch smaller in the waist. I've been wearing a pair for a years or so now and am pretty happy with them. I have not yet crashed in them, but I'll update you on them if I do. I understand the need to be somewhat snug fitting to keep the kevlar in place, but even though they are an inch larger nominal size than my levi's, these jeans serve as my canary in the cave that I am starting to gain weight. They seem to hold up well to repeated washings. Oh, and the cut of the jeans makes my butt look fast.
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Old 05-22-2004, 06:05 AM   #14
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Do I dare ask what it means to look like you have a fast ass?
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Old 05-22-2004, 07:06 AM   #15
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You know, a while back Englands MCN had a review of crash worthy clothing. One of the things they tested, with lots of failure was Kevlar based clothing, including Dragon (whatever) Jeans. After the tests they contacted the folks who make Kevlar (Dupont I believe) and they stated that kevlar was not designed for this use. Makes great drive belts though... Consequently, the jeans did not get a CE designation! Far as I know, they still don't and cannot be sold in Europe as protective clothing! Folks, there are lots of suits and real riding apparel out there. Spend the bucks and get on that fits and works!! Better yet, don't crash. I can tell you from mine back in January, crashing sucks, don't do it. I get the metal out of my knee in July. Still riding and will after the knee heals, after round 2 of surgery.



Bought a Fieldsheer Highland Suit to replace the suit (that was great for cold, but lousy for crash) that was cut off of me by the fine folks at Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta (wht do they have to call it memorial?). Made of stuff designed to be scraaaape resistent and has body armor. No, I am not volunteering to test its crash worthiness, but will let all know if I inadvertently do...and how it did... If you want the protection, jeans ain't gonna do it, doesnt matter what they are ''fortified" with! We enjoy a wonderfully insanely dangerous sport. Either just accept that and deal with the consequences or spend the bucks and do what you have to do to protect yourself. Depending on the temperature (sorry, over 90 degrees, ther suit stays home. Have to balance heat stroke versus crash worthiness) I just accept it and ride....



Matter of fact, why am I sitting here writing this. There are 3 bikes waiting to be ridden, BYE....
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Old 05-22-2004, 08:18 AM   #16
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On that note, does anybody know anything good, bad, or indifferent about Alpinestars Air-Flo Mesh pants, particularly their crash worthiness? They've got what looks like a good deal on them on New Enough, and after sweating my ass off going to and from work on Thursday, I'm looking for any way I can to help shed heat.</p>
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Old 05-22-2004, 09:50 AM   #17
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Default Re: KPaul looking for cool jeans

I have experience with the Joe Rocket mesh pants, which I can wear over my standard jeans. The armor is good and has, unfortunately, been crash tested by a few riders I know. It worked. And it's much more protective than the reinforced jeans. The cortech pants are great, but too hot except in the cases you mentioned. I think the same applies to the darien pants, though their quality is unquestioned.



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Old 05-22-2004, 09:52 AM   #18
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New Enough just had a sale on the Joe Rocket mesh pants, which I know to be good. Maybe the sale is over?



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Old 05-22-2004, 10:18 AM   #19
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Motorcycle superstore.com has the JR mesh pants for $10. bucks less. Their prices consistantly beat everyone else's on gear from what I've found.
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Old 05-22-2004, 11:50 AM   #20
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Default Re: Mesh Jacket

I recently bought a Triumph Raptor vented (mesh) jacket and I have to say that so far, I've very pleased with it. It feels like I'm wearing a t-shirt from an airflow perspective (except for where the armor is located on elbows, shoulders, and back). For the same price, if not less, than JR mesh apparel, this jacket has cordura over the shoulders and elbows and some heavy-duty hard-backed armor instead of JR's wimpy foam.



I still haven't gotten around to getting protective pants, so the timing of this article is helpful. I'm curious if the CE armor that can be added to the Draggin jeans will be of much use in a real crash because of the loose fit of the pants.



Triumph makes some vented pants to match the Raptor jacket, but the dealer didn't carry them so I couldn't check out how wacky they look.



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