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Old 03-31-2004, 07:30 AM   #21
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Default Re: Middleweight Standards Comparo

Maybe empty bluster passes for an argument in your trailer park, but you're just embarassing yourself here.
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Old 03-31-2004, 07:35 AM   #22
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Default My Pick is Still the FZ6



Not many of these are coming into the country - mine is SN 000158. After a couple of thousand miles I am impressed with this bike overall on the city and the highway. I live in San Francisco and drive the cities hills all day long. My bike rolls up to stop signs in 2nd gear and pulls strong. I have even pulled off in third without a problem, but then again I am using the bike as my main "sport" transportation daily. The engine, looks, fit and finish bury the Honda completely, although I love Honda and my other ride is a Shadow Cruiser.



I quote from the article: "...Fonzie spend a lot of time using the Yamaha as his personal commuter / camera platform and he seemed to love it. The rest of us (I mean all seven others) voted it no higher than 5th...." My comment is that I feel extremely lucky to even have one of these bikes, when it was wheeled onto the floor I was the first to put money on it and two other people put deposits on it if mine fell through.



I take this baby through the mountains "at speed" and lunch at Alice's Restaurant, and it stands tall among the best looking bikes there.



In closing, as an "odd benefit", this is one of the better bikes I have ever had a passenger on through San Francisco's "stop and go" hills - I weight 175 and my partner is 145, I am talking about the best control with passenger at low speeds I have ever experienced. Although this is only my seventh bike, it ranks as tops --- of course, I could have spent more $$$, but I don't see anything close in this weight/power range for under $12,000 that equals it overall - and of course I am counting performance AND how I look on it.



YES, I can't wait for Version two - but then again, to buy one of the first ALL NEW models made by Yamaha is always a little risky. I believe all the other choices are slightly "older tehcnology"... Again, take component for component, this is some machine at all speeds. Which reminds me, I'll take the 14,000 RPM Red line going through the mountains - second and third gear give me throttle control all through the turns with no shifting required - nice for a Street Rider.





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Old 03-31-2004, 07:36 AM   #23
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So, how about the Triumph with a superbike bar kit and some adjustable rearsets? Add that to the retail price and you're still not doing too bad. What do you think?
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Old 03-31-2004, 07:41 AM   #24
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Default Re: LUSTING after EX500?

oo the fug is Jeanene Garfunkel?
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Old 03-31-2004, 07:41 AM   #25
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this was pretty fun to read altho you gotta wonder how many people who have paid to read this would actually buy one of these wallowing pigs. even if they are more like piglets. and while i agree that the ex 500 is a great bike, it just "used to be" raced. it seems the sv is king now. i don't see many kawi 500s out there these days. maybe in different clubs i guess.

some of you guys have serious wardrobe malfunctions. probably martin. we don't get a lot of the newest stuff here in idaho.

the sv will kick the butt of any of these bikes. it really represents the best of the breed by far. if you took the best parts of these bikes and combined them, you would probably still not get to the sv's level. it is also capable of lots more. it has been developed. and new stuff is happening every day. i have heard that there are svs that will be raced this year with over 100hp. fire away.

and you can't beat the monster for allowing you to spend harley type money for harley type stuff, except you get to go faster.

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Old 03-31-2004, 08:08 AM   #26
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Default Seconded...

My girlfriend just got a new Vstrom 650, and I've been breaking it in.



The thing is friggin amazing. On any road, in any niche, there is a bike thats better. But I have NEVER experienced such all around goodness.



The engine has as much power as you need (it handles 2up on the freeway just fine, actually, and can out accererate 99% of the cars on the road). The handling is impecably neutral and suprisingly fast. The gas-tank is huge. Potholes don't exist. Comfort is amazing, vibration almost nonexistant. Gravel parking lots are no problem, and I'd guess that anything which is actually called a road (as opposed to a dirt trail) would be happy territory.





As a "do everything" bike, this beats out my VFR, by a large margin.

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Old 03-31-2004, 08:09 AM   #27
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I've seen some serious hotties on the weather channel.



Speaking of hotties, EBass's 599 comments were awesome. Reminds me of the 600 SS comparo a few years back where one tester compared the bikes to women. Excellent choice of metaphor. However, in that case, I'd disagree about the ZX6R being less sexy than the F4, but that is, literally, another story.



Great work, MO.
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Old 03-31-2004, 08:20 AM   #28
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Overall, we didn't hate the FZ-6, but I think we were so vocal about our feelings, because we were shocked at how far behind it's overall potiential the bike is. It was the oposite story with the DL-650. -Sean
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Old 03-31-2004, 08:27 AM   #29
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Default No doubt the Speed Four is a darned good bike.

I think I speak for all of the testers, when I say: "We agree whole-heartedly!" The bike finished 3rd overall and would have been even higher with more of a "standard" riding position. -Sean
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Old 03-31-2004, 08:34 AM   #30
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It's funny that the Honda won. They absolutely hated the 919. Size-wise there's not much difference. The 919 just has a whole lot more torque.

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