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Old 03-29-2001, 01:23 AM   #31
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Default Re: Have to dissagree...

'94 R1100RS; 40K miles - no problems...

'98 K1200RS; 40K miles - no problems...

'00 K1200LT; 16K miles - no problems...

Just my personal experience...
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Old 03-29-2001, 01:31 AM   #32
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Default Re: Ergonomically Deficient?

Having just returned from a trip from DC to the FL Keys and back a couple of weeks ago on the K1200LT, I can assure you that the LT is very comfortable... I rode back in one big chunk; 1,227 miles in 1,155 minutes [I love doing stuff like that]... I'm 6'2"/200 or so; the LT ain't for short folks... I run it through the twisties dragging the pegs all the time too, and it handles very well for such a heavy bike... Right/Left transitions [and vice versa] are kinda slow, though...
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Old 03-29-2001, 09:53 AM   #33
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Default Re: KLT Gas milage great/windshield great...

I get 37-39 mpg on the 2000 KLT I have... I have the shorter euro windscreen which I leave down in town and full up on the slab... Taste is personal, but I like the looks of the LT lots better than the Honda... Won't be challenging any GL1800 riders to "green-light" grans prix, though...
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Old 03-29-2001, 03:20 PM   #34
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Default Re: BMW vs. Honda Reader Feedback

To some extent, I would have liked Honda to have been a bit more open as to what the 2001 Goldwing was going to be. I was in the market in August for a second cycle, with a 1994 Pacific Coast as my only cycle at the time (now with 105K, never touched engine). I wanted something I could get my wife to always want to hop on board with, something that I could use a few days a week as a second commuter cycle (I live in the San Fran area and have a dual bridge commute). This lead me either to the K12LT or the Wing. Since the new wing was still a secret in Aug 2000, my choice became the BMW. Either one is BIG. Even when compared to a PC800. But it handles wonderfully. After getting it broken in, my wife and I and our two dogs went through the high Sierras and back; 700 miles in two days thru wonderful twisties. Although you don't purchase a cycle like this for its gas mileage, we only used 12 gallons for that trip and I usually get 48-50 mpg on commute days.

There are really only three things I wish the BMW would have the the Honda does. An unlimited mileage warranty for the first three years, a built in intercom, and compartment innerliners (luggage). It has more than enough omph to snap your neck accelerating (sorry, just how much horsepower to weight does someone really need), it handles like it is on rails once up to speed, it stops as well, if not better than it gets going with the anti-lock. And for me, it feels like my PC.
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Old 03-30-2001, 01:29 AM   #35
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Default Re: Taste is, well... personal...

I'm an LT owner, and I was concerned I'd fall in love with the new 'Wing; I didn't... Definately does not handle as well as the LT; I removed my top case, and ride the LT as a sport tourer - the Honda does not have the ground clearance to do that... Also, I'm 6'2" with a 34" inseam; the GL felt too small for me, if you can believe that... We're just lucky to have the problem of having to choose between these two awesome bikes!
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Old 04-16-2001, 06:01 AM   #36
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Default Re: Eye Witness Account

Not true gentlemen. BMW's New 'Evo' brake system is a 2 system design. On the sport tourers equipped with it, for now only the new 2002 R1150R-ABS, the front brake operates the entire brake system, and the rear brake pedal operates only the rear brakes. On the touring models, currently the 2002 R1150RT and soon the 2002 K1200LT, both hand lever and brake pedal operate the entire brake system. Difference is that the BMW system is dynamic and intelligent load sensing. That means, the system can analyze brake loading force on each wheel independently, and dynamicaly adjust the proportioning valve in the solenoid to adjust brake pressures. Incidently, the new 'Evo' system, is power solenoid assisted and requires 50% less control pressure to receive the same braking force as before, and the new pads are specially constructed of a material designed for this system, providing a minimum 50% greater service life than previous BMW pads.



Having ridden both fully and partially linked systems over 500 miles each, and deliberately putting them throught their paces, I can say that BMW's new 'Evo' system is simply amazing and must be ridden to appreciate or comment on it.



Try one, I think you'll be shocked at just how good motorcycle brakes can be.
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Old 05-07-2001, 09:22 PM   #37
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hahahahahahaha-my sentiments exactly. As a VMax owner I easily remember that bikes are about power and performance and adrenalin-not stereos and 830lbs.
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Old 05-15-2001, 10:33 AM   #38
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Best touring bike for all around purpose is the Valk Interstate. Beats all others hands down.
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Old 07-13-2001, 01:52 PM   #39
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Default Re: Honda Optional vs. BWM Standard

Oh, how the times have changed. Being the guy who posted the original "parent" post ("...on my 6th 'Wing, blah, blah, blah..."), I have come to see the light without regard for the almighty dollar. I have on order a Pearl Orange '02 'Wing w/ ABS, due to arrive at my dealer in September, complete with $5400 in extra do-dads to go along with it. That's right, nearly $24K worth of 'Wing. Pearl Orange, you say? Yep - looks more copper than orange in person (saw one at 'Wing Ding in Greenville, SC last week). After riding one, I was hooked, and if you're a big bike rider wondering what they're like, I recommend you don't do it unless you're ready to buy one...they're THAT good! Now that being said, my wife is riding and potentially buying a new K1200-LTI this weekend. It's tough to beat 0.9% financing, and she'll really be stepping up from her '89 Honda Pacific Coast. Looks like I might just have the best of both worlds very soon...



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Old 07-22-2001, 08:57 AM   #40
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The Valk Interstate is basically just an unfaired Goldwing with classic styling and chrome. I can't see how it could possibly be BETTER for touring.
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