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pplassm · 11-14-2003, 03:02 AM

Anyone else irritated that the major helmet manufacturers (Arai and Shoei) will not allow vendors to advertise discount prices? I see this is spreading to other items as well (Alpinestars boots).

I have heard an know the arguments, but I still find it an irritation that costs me time and effort.

Arai was the manufacturer that started this.

SRMark · 11-14-2003, 04:57 AM

I will eventually need to be made aware of a price if I ever intend to buy. This whole idea of "our prices are too low to advertise" is crap. If I have to call for a price, I look to another product. I find it very irritating to have to go look up a price. Others do the same thing and I avoid them like the plague. HJC makes some great stuff and doesn't put you through the hassle.

Buzglyd · 11-14-2003, 05:11 AM

The new Arai "KPC"

It's fitted with an exaggerated outer shell coupled with extremely tight inner padding to protect the narrowest of minds.

In addition, the impact areas are totally self-absorbing.

In comes in only one color scheme which Arai describes as "incongruity."

KPaulCook · 11-14-2003, 06:18 AM

The model has my distinctive autograph "KPaul"

Click here

longride · 11-14-2003, 12:17 PM

I couldn't add a thing Buz.

nweaver · 11-14-2003, 01:05 PM

$100-150 gets a nice, fully featured, M2000 rated HJC or KJC helmet. I like the integrated visor and the extended field of view, but at +$250-350 (for no more impact protection), it doesn't seem worth it.

obandoj · 11-14-2003, 04:50 PM

Speaking of Arai helmets, lets talk about a great rider that is sponsored by that fine company. Eric Bostrom was let go by Kawasaki today! They claim that the company does not wish to compete in AMA superbike for 2004 so they wish Eric great luck in his professional pursuits. That reminds me of what they did to Wayne Rainey at the end of the 1983 season, when after winning the championship on an outdated GPZ 750, he was let go unceremonously by big green, it was not long after that, that they released the worst junk the motorcycle industry has ever seen (900 and 600 Ninjas that lasted 10.000 miles if you were lucky) I wander what they are going to sell to the unsuspecting masses now.

I used to be a Kawasaki fan, but after that, I was left to wander what the deal was. I have been a great fan of EBoz, and because of that, I tolerated big green, but now they show their true colors again. I wish Kawasaki the worst luck in racing!

Cheapskate · 11-14-2003, 06:57 PM

I like the visor. I was riding into the setting sun today and could hardly see a thing. Had to ride behind a truck for several miles. Does anyone make a removable visor that fits other helmets?

pplassm · 11-15-2003, 05:26 AM

Agreed. There are many fine helmets out there that offer much of the same performance at prices substantially lower than the big two (A&S). They just don't have the same cachet, I suppose.

kawazuki · 11-15-2003, 10:22 AM

I have both an HJC and an Arai. I've used both on 1000+ mile trips, and the Arai really is more comfortable. It weighs less, and has both less wind resistance, and less wind noise. It also seems to have better ventilation. But unless you ride really long distances on a completely unfaired bike (Yamaha Warrior, in my case) it's probably not worth it for the more expensive helmet. I always wear the cheaper one around town, because I'm less irritated if it gets scratched. (Yes, it is goofy, but goddamnit, I spent $450 on the nice helmet, so it bugs me when I scratch it.)

-Kawazuki

11-14-2003, 03:02 AM	#1
pplassm Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,875	Re: Arai XD Helmet Anyone else irritated that the major helmet manufacturers (Arai and Shoei) will not allow vendors to advertise discount prices? I see this is spreading to other items as well (Alpinestars boots). I have heard an know the arguments, but I still find it an irritation that costs me time and effort. Arai was the manufacturer that started this. __________________ Mongo just pawn in game of life.

11-14-2003, 04:57 AM	#2
SRMark Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,465	Re: Arai XD Helmet I will eventually need to be made aware of a price if I ever intend to buy. This whole idea of "our prices are too low to advertise" is crap. If I have to call for a price, I look to another product. I find it very irritating to have to go look up a price. Others do the same thing and I avoid them like the plague. HJC makes some great stuff and doesn't put you through the hassle.

11-14-2003, 05:11 AM	#3
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,858	You forgot another model, Sean The new Arai "KPC" It's fitted with an exaggerated outer shell coupled with extremely tight inner padding to protect the narrowest of minds. In addition, the impact areas are totally self-absorbing. In comes in only one color scheme which Arai describes as "incongruity."

11-14-2003, 06:18 AM	#4
KPaulCook Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,756	Re: You forgot another model, Sean The model has my distinctive autograph "KPaul" Click here

11-14-2003, 12:17 PM	#5
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 10,484	Re: You forgot another model, Sean I couldn't add a thing Buz. __________________ I'm a knucklehead

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11-14-2003, 01:05 PM	#6
nweaver Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 458	Nice helmet, but $400?!? $100-150 gets a nice, fully featured, M2000 rated HJC or KJC helmet. I like the integrated visor and the extended field of view, but at +$250-350 (for no more impact protection), it doesn't seem worth it.

11-14-2003, 04:50 PM	#7
obandoj Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Arizona Posts: 912	Re: Arai XD Helmet Speaking of Arai helmets, lets talk about a great rider that is sponsored by that fine company. Eric Bostrom was let go by Kawasaki today! They claim that the company does not wish to compete in AMA superbike for 2004 so they wish Eric great luck in his professional pursuits. That reminds me of what they did to Wayne Rainey at the end of the 1983 season, when after winning the championship on an outdated GPZ 750, he was let go unceremonously by big green, it was not long after that, that they released the worst junk the motorcycle industry has ever seen (900 and 600 Ninjas that lasted 10.000 miles if you were lucky) I wander what they are going to sell to the unsuspecting masses now. I used to be a Kawasaki fan, but after that, I was left to wander what the deal was. I have been a great fan of EBoz, and because of that, I tolerated big green, but now they show their true colors again. I wish Kawasaki the worst luck in racing!

11-14-2003, 06:57 PM	#8
Cheapskate Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7	Re: Arai XD Helmet I like the visor. I was riding into the setting sun today and could hardly see a thing. Had to ride behind a truck for several miles. Does anyone make a removable visor that fits other helmets?

11-15-2003, 05:26 AM	#9
pplassm Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,875	Re: Nice helmet, but $400?!? Agreed. There are many fine helmets out there that offer much of the same performance at prices substantially lower than the big two (A&S). They just don't have the same cachet, I suppose. __________________ Mongo just pawn in game of life.

11-15-2003, 10:22 AM	#10
kawazuki Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 196	Re: Nice helmet, but $400?!? I have both an HJC and an Arai. I've used both on 1000+ mile trips, and the Arai really is more comfortable. It weighs less, and has both less wind resistance, and less wind noise. It also seems to have better ventilation. But unless you ride really long distances on a completely unfaired bike (Yamaha Warrior, in my case) it's probably not worth it for the more expensive helmet. I always wear the cheaper one around town, because I'm less irritated if it gets scratched. (Yes, it is goofy, but goddamnit, I spent $450 on the nice helmet, so it bugs me when I scratch it.) -Kawazuki