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Old 11-12-2003, 03:53 AM   #11
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It isn't a tractor engine. I hope the myth that the Guzzi motorcycle engine is derived from the Mule will die soon.
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Old 11-12-2003, 04:21 AM   #12
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Make that HORRIBLE music!
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Old 11-12-2003, 04:37 AM   #13
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Sorry but got to disagree. Lets see, 3200 @ 60 means 160 @ 8200, (max power rpm). Not only that 87 hp will never get you to 160, on a naked bike where you never spend much time above 100 and where you want a nice roll-on pull, that gearing is ultra long, at least in my book. It surely felt so.

Will have to check rpms for the new Beemers I find it hard to believe that they are 18 per 1000. Since they have 6- speed gearboxes maybe they can get away with an overdrive top without big gaps between the lower gears. Same story for the 6-speed V11. Buells have that kind of gearing and indeed, with their longer stroke motors that redline 1500 rpm before the Guzzi, they are much more realistically geared.

Since I clock 10,000 miles a year on my 850 Le-Mans daily hack and not on a whinny 600, I can assure you that revs at 60 are around 3600-3700. This results in a 125-mph top speed @7800.

In any case, even the guys at Ghezzi Brian acknowledged the fact that the original gearing of the California based gearbox was high for the Furia, hence the possibility to order shorter gearing.



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Old 11-12-2003, 06:00 AM   #14
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A sense of humor must be a geographical thing ‘cause the flaming messages are arriving to my mailbox too...

Being a life long guzzista, I of course know that the engine was not made for a tractor but as high performance replacement for the Fiat 500 car.

Nevertheless, in Italy at least, big Guzzis are still affectionately called tractors (with a pinch of self-irony).

I guess the myth started because the snow mule made by Guzzi also had a V-Twin but that engine is indeed unrelated to the bikes.

Hey, I still define my 850 LM III "A concrete slab with two tiny handles"!

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Old 11-12-2003, 06:16 AM   #15
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Default How cool would it be....

to have a snow cat with a Guzzi engine? Imagine grafting the latest Guzzi 1100 top end and related parts into a snow cat? Smokin' up them trails, leaving Polaris Indies in yer wake. Heh heh.
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Old 11-12-2003, 06:25 AM   #16
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Default What no Wheelies?!

An srticle on a hooligan bike, and no wheelie pictures?



Oh, that's right. I almost forgot. Shafties can't wheelie.



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Old 11-12-2003, 06:32 AM   #17
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I take your point that 87 bhp won't get you to 160. If you want top speed to happen at the redline in top gear, then yes, it's overgeared, but my point that it's the sort of gearing that is normal on big twins still stands, I think.

I don't know about 6-speed boxers. My '96 5-speed R1100R is geared at 18/1000 or a few fractions under, and my '77 R100RS was slightly longer. I know BMW made different rear drive ratios available at the time. I'm interested to hear about your LeMans: my LeMans II was exactly 18/1000, cruising at exactly 5000, or 90 mph, all day down French autoroutes back in the 1980s (Ah, happy days!). Maybe there's a difference between EU-spec stuff and US-spec: that's certainly true of Harleys, as I discovered, and converting them back to US-spec makes them a lot livelier.
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Old 11-12-2003, 06:47 AM   #18
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Some people can, even 800 pound shafties, check it out:



Jean Pierre Goy on a K1200LT 1

Jean Pierre Goy on a K1200LT 2.



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Old 11-12-2003, 06:54 AM   #19
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double headed eternal erection!! nice work Yossef.
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Old 11-12-2003, 08:03 AM   #20
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Ghezzi & Brian have brought a good influence on the motorcycle scene. Their motorcycles are beautifully executed. I hope to see more of their work. An alternative to those who want a motorcycle that offers something a bit different.
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