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Old 11-09-2003, 09:02 AM   #51
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Default Re: Ruffled feathers?

There are some of us that derive more pleasure out of riding motorcycles than fixing them.



Old hondas (except the classics) are a dime a dozen because Honda floods the market with them. They're affordable and there's a dealer in every town. How else was a little bicycle company from japan supposed to penetrate the whitebread US market? This is their marketing strategy. Does this make them inferior bikes? Fock no. Honda's engineering is among he most advanced in the world. Did you know that every single Honda engineer has to intern in a racing program before working on any consumer projects? Did you know that Honda is the world's largest engine manufacturer? (yes more than GM even) No I don't work for Honda but between my father, my brother, and myself we have owned 14 Honda motorcycles and 2 accords.



Of course they cost more to rebuild. But they're solid engines and you SHOULDN"T HAVE TO. A forged crankshaft costs more to make than a cast one. Maybe Honda (and the other japs) are making more money in the showroom with their "deliberate obsolescence" as you think of it. *This is an example of their fiercely competitive nature and helps ADVANCE their technology.* But HD's parts department is laughing all the way to the bank.



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Old 11-09-2003, 11:00 AM   #52
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Default Re: Living with the VFR

Great article.

My 2cts on VFR's.Bought one '96 750 2 years ago with 33 kmiles. It has 55 kmiles now and it ran flawlessly.

It's exactly as you said. Oil, tires, gas, an so on.



don't know if the new ones are so reliable, so I'll stick 2 more years with 750, then I'll get the latest fro 2001.
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Old 11-09-2003, 11:07 AM   #53
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got one of those pipes and sound is just adictive.

as for the dunlops the 205 get 12K Km and they're stil running.

as for mods, the screen and the raisers are a must for bigger than 400 m trips

if I could get one of those throtlemeister here in Portugal !!! (help wanted)
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Old 11-09-2003, 11:15 AM   #54
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Default Re: Living with the VFR - eat voltage regulators

Mine got one when I bought it, and it's still the same (50k km later).

Maybe the voltage regulators wre the problem, not the bike...
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Old 11-09-2003, 11:35 AM   #55
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Default Re: Living with the VFR - eat voltage regulators

Yep. Honda has beefed up the regulator/rectifier units. The new ones are beefier and more heavily heat-sunk. Problem appears to be fixed.
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Old 11-09-2003, 04:59 PM   #56
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Yes, that's it! And that's not how the cams are driven on a VFR.
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Old 11-09-2003, 05:05 PM   #57
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List price is $3000 more also. Hopefully you get something more than the hard bags for 3 large.
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Old 11-09-2003, 05:14 PM   #58
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Here's my opinion. I've ridden several Concours. None of them had buzz that I'd worry about. Certainly less buzz than my old Suzuki GSXR1100. My wife and I have a pair of Kawasaki KLR650's. Now there's some hand-numbing buzz! Bottom line, don't pass on a Concours because your worried about the buzz.
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Old 11-09-2003, 05:31 PM   #59
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1980 was a good year for Japanese motorcycles. Let's pick out a nice similarly priced 1980 Harley Davidson. I guess that would be something from the "Sportster" line. (ie: Not a "real Harley") Now let's ride it for 33,000 miles. Good luck!! Wonder how the maintenance costs would compare to the Honda. Bet it wouldn't be worth much either. And while we're riding those 33,000 miles, we'll be happy to ignore that the performance and handling of the Harley suck and it's really not much fun to ride. I'd love to have a nice 1980 Honda CB900F. The Honda dealer has one in Moose Jaw. He's asking $4,500 for it and he'll probably get most of that. That's more than the bike sold for new. You couldn't give me a 1980 Harley.
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Old 11-10-2003, 02:51 AM   #60
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Funny- I tried a Futura and thought it boring-not as fun-feeling as a VFR.
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