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View Poll Results: Best Beginner's Bike?
Kawasaki EX 250 "Ninja" 47 12.50%
Suzuki DRZ-250 Dual Purpose 21 5.59%
Kawasaki EX 500 "Ninja" 44 11.70%
Suzuki SV-650 / 650S 51 13.56%
Ducati Monster 620 24 6.38%
Moto Guzzi Breva 750ie 90 23.94%
BMW F-650CS 25 6.65%
Large Displacement Scooters 1 0.27%
Small Displacement Scooters 2 0.53%
600 Supersports (R6, ZX-6R, CBR, GSX-R, etc...) 6 1.60%
Honda Rebel 250 42 11.17%
Harley Davidson 883 23 6.12%
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Old 03-15-2003, 08:12 PM   #11
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Default Re: Moto Guzzi Breva Reader Feedback

Yeah, they can make light bikes, but look at the cost! Oh wait, Japanese bikes are cheaper. Hmmm.....
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Old 03-15-2003, 09:09 PM   #12
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Default 883 in a trade?

do you think my local dealer would take my '02 883R on a trade. This bike sounds like it would 'work and play well' with the other bikes I have.

I wonder if the motor would lag if a full shield was installed plus the bags..

I know the 883R is so slow without the shield, the beemer's got to be better than that!
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Old 03-16-2003, 06:44 AM   #13
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Default Re: Moto Guzzi Breva Reader Feedback

Nice bike...

When can I get one in the States?

there just aren't many cool bikes (cool for me = not sportbike, not cruiser) on the market...

I like the Monster, but the maintenance sounds ridiculous

the SV 650 is too short

I love the looks of the 883R, but local HD dealer wants 8K! and that's without the Harley tax...
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Old 03-16-2003, 06:46 AM   #14
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Default Re: Moto Guzzi Breva Reader Feedback

That's a good point

Any Monster owners have feedback on Ducati maintenance costs?
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Old 03-16-2003, 08:58 AM   #15
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Default Re: Harley Tax and Maintenance

Funny, dealers here in CA are offering discounts on Sportsters now. I walked into a dealership in Fremont a couple of months ago and when I looked at an 883R the first words out of the salesman's mouth was "$1000 off." Of course, that was a left-over 2002 model, but the tide is sure changing.



It doesn't sound as if the Breva shares the 2003 Guzzi 1100's hydraulic lifters. Maintenance requirements on the bigger M-Gs appears to have been reduced substantially by this change. At least the cylinder heads stick out on the Breva so maintenance is relatively easy. My old BMW R1100R required regular valve adjustments but it was a simple matter of putting the bike on the centerstand and pulling a stool up to each side of the bike.



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Old 03-16-2003, 10:25 AM   #16
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Default Re: Moto Guzzi Breva Reader Feedback

The biggest deciding factor would be dealer location & support, Living close to a city that has just about any bike you want, it's not a problem for me, but MG or Ducati dealers might be thin on the ground in other places. They all look pretty cool to me, since the 620 monster is air cooled, I'm guessing it doesn't require $800. valve adjustments every 2k miles, if price was a factor the SV 650 would probably be best, otherwise I'd go with the 'Guzzi, it seems more substantial than the others, and I'd trade up to a V11 Scura after a year or two so at least I'd be in the loop.
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Old 03-16-2003, 11:51 AM   #17
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"PLEASE GET RID OF THE DUMB ASS "SMACK BACK""



Looks like you got your wish. Now it says "Reply to this rant". Of course, the button after the original story item still says "Talks some smack". Sigh.



Re story, well, I guess an underpowered 750 makes more sense as a beginner bike than a 600 supersport. Still pretty heavy for a first bike, though.
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Old 03-16-2003, 12:51 PM   #18
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Default Doctor needed

You really need to see a doctor about your missing sense of humor.



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Old 03-16-2003, 12:57 PM   #19
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Default Monster Maintenance

I found the M750 cheap to maintain. The key is learning to do your own valve adjustments. It's pretty simple, no harder than adjusting eight valves on an two valve per cylinder four, and the valves are easy to get to, unlike many other bikes I've worked on. The rest of the maintenance is pretty similar to any other bike. Overall I would have to rate the Monster series as in the "better half" for maintenance. They are reliable in stock trim.



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Old 03-16-2003, 04:48 PM   #20
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Default Re: Moto Guzzi Breva Reader Feedback

How about the SV1000?!
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