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Old 12-09-2002, 10:01 AM   #31
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Default Re: Death of the V-Twin in Racing continued

That's racing. Developing the best product to fit within the current rules structure. I believe you catagorized that as "unfair" in a previous post. Does that mean the rules now "unfairly" assist 3, 4 and 5 cylinder machines?



Twins will always have their place on the street. Their probably is no easier configuration to ride fast.
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Old 12-09-2002, 10:03 AM   #32
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Of course the irony of all this is Honda's relative lack of success (one championship with Kocinski) in competing in World Superbike with the RC45 V-4. They then "copy" Ducati with the RC51, who abandon this configuration to copy that of the RC45 for Grand Prix...
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Old 12-09-2002, 10:30 AM   #33
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I didn't say 11 seconds -flat-, but that's beside the point anyway.



10.2 seconds, 10.8 seconds, 11.0 seconds, 11.9 seconds, 12.5 seconds...



Give or take a second (or even two, since I personally suck) and we're still talking something not very yawn inducing. And that, was my objection to the original post.
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Old 12-09-2002, 10:31 AM   #34
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Hadn't picked up on that particular irony -- pretty good!
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Old 12-09-2002, 10:39 AM   #35
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Is there a point in here someplace?



Can MO help it if several manufacturers did not pring their new 600 sportbikes?



Oh, also, since when is sucking a bad thing?
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Old 12-09-2002, 01:02 PM   #36
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You might not be alone--I kinda like it too--but I think we are in the vast minority on this one...
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Old 12-09-2002, 01:22 PM   #37
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dammit I'm with you guys! I thought the Multistrada was cool, while the 999 looked even uglier in the flesh than in the magazines.
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Old 12-09-2002, 01:56 PM   #38
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There is definitely irony in this story but there was that all important matter of the extra 250cc capacity that the rules for WSB allowed. Remember the early days though the first two championships in 1988 and 1989 were won by Fred Merkel on the RC30. The fours were so fast compared to the twins then that they even had heavy weight penalties on them. Then Ducati started developing the twin from 851 to 888 to 916 etc until the 750 four couldn't compete. The weight limits got evened up and the Ducatis kept improving so Honda went down the same road with the twin. With MotoGP its a whole new game of rules but at least the capacity is the same for all. This will lead in time to all sorts of things being tried. Ducati are to be commended for giving it a go and who knows their V4 may generate a road bike series. As for Fred Merkel he is still in the game down here in New Zealand running training days for racers at our Taupo circuit.



Check out his profile http://www.amaproracing.com/archive/...PRO/MERKEL.HTM



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Old 12-09-2002, 04:28 PM   #39
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. . . based on your comment, I bet I can guess what you've been stroking. If scantily clad silicone fembots are your thing there's this really cool invention called a "strip joint". It costs about the same to get into as the Long Beach show but there are fewer bikes, more chicks and less clothing.



As for the guy signing autographs, stay tuned for the exclusive MO interview appearing soon!



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Old 12-10-2002, 05:31 AM   #40
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No dirt bikes?



Just Alvahla's trials machine and a F***ing quad?!

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