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Old 12-09-2002, 07:53 AM   #21
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Default Death of the V-Twin in Racing continued

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Old 12-09-2002, 08:02 AM   #22
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Were there any Maxi Scooters on Display
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Old 12-09-2002, 08:48 AM   #23
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'7) Japanese sport bikes, yawn'



Yeah, I know I'm usually yawning whenever I go through an 11 second quarter mile... And what's more boring than being cranked over scraping pegs at a clip higher than any Harley's top speed? It certainly isn't as exciting as spending all afternoon polishing your acres of chrome, riding for five minutes to get to a bar, then spending all evening looking at all your chrome.



'The Island Nation of Motorcycles really needs to do something different. Their bikes may be fast and handle great, but are getting long in the tooth and BORING! Even the new stuff is just really rehashing of their old designs.'



Yeah, they just keep rehashing their old designs... Every year, the same old - same old. More horsepower, less weight, more reliability, better handling, longer service intervals... It's like they just keep taking the making an original design better and better and better. What sort of consumer wants that?



'Put some saddle bags and taller bars and lower pegs on the ZX12R, call it a sport touring bike (or Concours) and then I might get interested.'



Yeah saddle bags and low pegs on them, and then a lot of extra reflectors, a case of viagra, and a high viz chartreuse roadcrafter suit... then we'd be talking!



' Cruisers of the non-American ilk with that "American Inspired" styling are still nothing more than a bunch of Notaharleys to me. And now they cost damn near as much. Didn't understand them when they started, really don't now! Matter of fact, don't care to! Have ridden damn near all of them, still like the real thing better and ordered one. Which leads to....'



Yeah, those japanese cruisers, what's their appeal? Is it their lower price? Their much better reliability? Their higher performance? The better customer service at their dealerships? The fact that you don't have to wait eight years to buy one? The fact that you don't get gouged for thousands over MSRP by dealers? Bah! Who cares about any of those things? It isn't like they say 'Harley Davidson' on them or anything! How can you go around telling everyone in your law firm that you ride a Harley Davidson when you don't actually ride one?



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Old 12-09-2002, 09:12 AM   #24
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Your powers of observation are quite acute grasshopper! In order to get clear shots of the bikes without spending 15 minutes per cycle receiving death stares for asking the 10 people hovering over each one of them to please move, and would whoever hatched that 8 year old kid please get him off the damn bike already, certain concessions had to be made. As such, MO was granted access to the show floor before it opened. Not all of the booths were completely set up, and no babes were in attendance. Not that my editor probably would have let me publish them anyway, but there were only about 4 booth bunnies at the show and they were purely of the generic, "silicone boobs, silicone brain, ugly face, caked on makeup" variety. So you didn't miss much, amigo!
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Old 12-09-2002, 09:16 AM   #25
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Yes, Aprilia had their Atlantic there, Suzuki had their 650 and (I think 400) scooters there, Honda had the Silverwing. IMO, the Aprilia is by far the best looking (Italian design surprise surprise). It is also significantly cheaper than the Silverwing and Suzuki 650. It does have a smaller engine, but bigger wheels which would make it more stable...
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Old 12-09-2002, 09:23 AM   #26
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Default Best part of the show

Was Bree modelling on the bikes for another magazine, showing, er, quite a bit more than the Stadler test. God Bless America!

And oh yeah, some dude who won a world championship for Honda was signing stuff..

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Old 12-09-2002, 09:32 AM   #27
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Default Re: Death of the V-Twin in Racing continued

Well at least you've changed your off-topic flame bait to Death of the V-twin "in racing."
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Old 12-09-2002, 09:35 AM   #28
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I'll bet you've never done an 11 second 1/4 mile. Claiming rights to Don Canets test times don't count.



If Metric cruisers are so great, why is it that the first thing a metric cruiser owner does is peel off all the decals that identify it as a "Shadow, Vulcan, etc."
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Old 12-09-2002, 09:50 AM   #29
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I sometimes learn from my mistakes . But I do feel vindicated by this article. You guys really thought my theory was far fetched. Racing V-Twins will be the first to go. Soon Honda discontinues the RC51 and VTR etc. Ducati moves to a V-4 .....Aprillia to a Triple just a matter of time.

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Old 12-09-2002, 09:52 AM   #30
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Well said
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