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Old 12-18-2002, 04:53 PM   #131
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Default Re: The Age-Hardened Burns: Part I Reader Feedback

The implication that journalists are somehow innately small of ego is silly on its face. The converse implication, that those drawn to journalism trend toward idealism at the expense of egoism is equally vapid. Burns is too cynical and jaded not to know better, and I am surprised.



To wit: a liberally-minded idealist/altruist with small or nonexistant ego would likely join the Peace Corps or perhaps Amnesty International, or if they were militant, Greenpeace. But the media (esp. tv) ?! I think that's a stretch.

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Old 12-18-2002, 05:04 PM   #132
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Default Re: I wish me go to college.

Of course CNN is liberal. Ted Turner should be your first clue.



But more than that, FOX news network was started in VERY large part as a backlash specifically against the picnic-mustard colored stories that air on CNN.



And Rupert Murdoch might still be pissed that Ted scored that hot babe, Jane, and he didn't.
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Old 12-18-2002, 05:24 PM   #133
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Default I could'a been a Contenda!!

I love modern bookstores because I still read Motorcyclist every month, but haven't actually bought the thing in a year. So I don't feel compelled to memorize each month's issue in order to get "my money's worth." So I enjoy it now much more than I did when I was paying for it. Sue me.



And why, after reading Boehm's editorials, do I get the feeling that his comment last month about their new web site ("...and unlike those other pet****s, our site is free!") and his John Birch-esque comments this month, were aimed *specifically* at Burns/MO?



It's like the Dueling Brandos with these two guys. Boehm says, "The Horror, the Horror." and Burns replies, "Stella!"



It's cute in that juvenile "He's touching me!!" way. Maybe they are siamese twin brothers separated at the gut?



They've both written articles that were instrumental in getting me on bikes (as well as the late Greg McQuide) and they've both written articles that have outlined some technique that saved my bootie. Notwithstanding that, watching them decide by force of arms what side the bread should be buttered on is emphatically *NOT*

what I signed up for. Right now, I'm subscribing for the archives.



Watching these two use valuable editorial space to trade barbs is like watching Oprah: you're horrified but your can't look away. MAybe we should get them together for Celebrity Boxing. It'd be like watching a Foreman/de la Hoya fight. In which fight, five bucks says Mills Lane gets sick of 'em both and lets a ravenous tiger into the ring. The outcome at that poi8nt is predictable. And by the sound of these other comments, that's what's going to happen to both of them and their magazines if they keep bickering like menstruating baboons.



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Old 12-19-2002, 02:39 AM   #134
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I admit, my exposure is limited to "The Fountainhead" and a few other short pieces; I thought that Rand's point was that, what is called Altruism by most is actually an ego-feeding superiority complex.</p>

Based on what I've seen of congressional debate on family leave, day care, etc., I have to say that she had a point.</p>
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Old 12-19-2002, 02:56 AM   #135
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The MO home page says that I have 73 days left on my account. I don't agree with JohnnyB on more than 20% of his stated opinions (and I don't want to know how often he's yanking my chain- it'd be like knowing how the magic trick is done.) Still, his bits by themselves are worth the price of re-upping.</p>

The bigger worry for me is the recent lack of e-mails with links to new content. What happened, people?

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Old 12-20-2002, 06:50 PM   #136
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Default Re: The Age-Hardened Burns: Part I Reader Feedback

"Could it be, then, that these "biased" journalists simply have a better grasp of the facts than the average reader? Also, by choosing to go into journalism instead of business or marketing, could it be that they tend more toward altruism than egoism?"



This is what I think of when I think of media bias. not liberal or conservative bias. not ideological or political bias. But bias based on pure, unadulterated arrogance, unmitigated gall.



The true media bias, as I perceive it, is the Fourth Estate's hubristic pattern of deeming their fellow men intellectually inferior. They have the temerity to tell us (occasionally) and to imply with the character of their yellow journalism (or at least, the yellow delivery of the news, more frequently) that we are incapable of understanding, so they will deign to translate for us.

The true bias in the media is the intellectual and moral superiority they arrogate unto themselves arbitrarily.

So there...Plbbbbhbhbhbhst!
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Old 12-20-2002, 06:57 PM   #137
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those things cost money. More, I would hazard to guess, than they make from just our measly subscriptions and a seasonal ad from Byool Amerikin Skoooturs.
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Old 12-20-2002, 07:10 PM   #138
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Are you now oppressing Wilt's "Constitutional right" to homosexual necrophilia? You facist.
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Old 12-20-2002, 07:36 PM   #139
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Speaking of societal costs, though. I don't want to pay for some guy's free (lifetime?) care after he french-kisses a phone poll at seventy per. But I gotta tell ya, Bro, I really think you're foolin' yourself there. I think that once a public entity (gov't) gets your money, they ain't givin' it back. If never another cyclist even got hurt on the road ever again, the group that appropriated that moeny from you in the first place would darn sure think up some other use for it, rather than return it to you.



that is the ridiculousness of the homeland security dep't thingy. 300 some-odd million is al it will take. Yeah, right. The history of our country is thus: every single time...ever...that a tax has been imposed, it has eventually been raised. NO tax, once instituted into law, has ever been repealed. NO presidentail tax break has ever survived the succeeding administration. So I have to say, I'd rather my money be used for vegetable cyclistson life support (the societal costs you mentioned), because at least that way, the gov't can't use that cash to do any furhter damage. they are going to confiscate my money one way or the other.
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Old 12-22-2002, 08:42 AM   #140
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I'm an audio engineer. My job has given me a chance to listen to all sides of the political spectrum. I've worked for Mrs. Clinton and the NRA. Both prestented biased arguments in support of their position. Mrs. Clinton did stretch the bounds of decency a bit whem she told an audience of middle school students that "everyone in Yugoslavia got along fine until Slobodan Milosevich told them not to"

I realize that politicans as a class are prone to lie, but I wish they would have the decency to only prevaricate in the presence of adults.

I personally love a good argument. I look at it as a chance to learn. I constantly try to re-examine my beliefs, checking for flaws in reasoning. Kudos to Mr. Burns for starting a whopping good argument! I must point out that his remarks about the journalistic profession's alleged superiority are just a BIT self serving.

I'm new to motorcycling, but I've noticed a lot of hatred among Motocycle journalists. You seem to really dislike each other and have no qulams attacking one another in print. It adds a tabloid quality to your work.

I suggest a grudge match of some sort to settle things one and for all.
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