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Old 12-04-2002, 05:34 PM   #101
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Default Re: The Age-Hardened Burns: Part I Reader Feedback

I agree. Whatever happened there, get over it. We don't care. Review some bikes. There are dozens we haven't seen reviewed yet. Do some shootouts. Go on some trips. Measure gas milage. Take some photos. Customize a metric cruiser. Install hard bags. Race a VFR. Tour a GSX-R.



Enough on politics. Enough on Motorcylist.
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Old 12-04-2002, 09:38 PM   #102
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Old 12-05-2002, 05:49 AM   #103
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"...the general population will never accept motorcycles any more than they'll ever agree that skydiving is a wholesome family activity; it just looks too scary from the outside..."



I assume you mean the general population of the US, as in Europe most people are not that unacceptable of motorcycles and -cyclists. The problem seems that in the US, motorcycles are not used for everyday transportation, but for purely recreational purposes, while in Europe the congested roads and limited parking spaces make motorcyclists the smartest road users about. So the general population in Europe tends to view motorcycles and -cyclists more favorably.

Of course, doing a wheelie into oncoming traffic will raise a frown in the Netherlands also...
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Old 12-05-2002, 07:59 AM   #104
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Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, Rush....
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Old 12-05-2002, 08:04 AM   #105
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*sigh* another 'liberal media' rant. I wish you ranters would actually point out some EXAMPLES of said 'liberal bias' in current media stories? Huh? Where is it anyway? All I EVER seen these days on Fox, CNN, ABC, NBC, MSN and all the other corporate-owned media outlets is "Showdown Saddam!" "Target: IRAQ!" "God Bless our Troops!" etc etc etc ad fooking nauseum! Come on, WHERE are the QUESTIONERS of AUTHORITY that the media is supposedly full of? Where are the anti-war views, the anti-corporate stances, the supposed 'liberals'? They've been bought by Big Media Inc, is where. The only truly independent media is online, nowdays...sad for this country.
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Old 12-05-2002, 08:14 AM   #106
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Although you "would like to think" that this statement means that we "should keep each other's well being in ming", your quote directly contradicts your feeling.



And FOR THE SUPPORT OF THIS DECLARATION,.........we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.



This means that insofar as upholding this declaration of our freedom and liberty is concerned, they pledged to fight and defend one another in the course of upholding it. Each other's "well being"? They may have thought of it within their own personal relationships, but the Declaration doesn't mention it. It is only concerned about securing freedom from tyranny. It does not mention altruism other than pledging your life to the selfish cause of personal freedom.
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Old 12-05-2002, 08:45 AM   #107
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1.) Certainly.



2.) No apology is really necessary though I do appreciate the gesture... In writing, I'll admit the true intent of this type of message is sometimes ambiguous as I feel was the case here. In the end, there are as many interpretations as there are readers. Aren't we motorcycle folk just the nicest people? Bygones.



3.) I thought so as well, I'm glad you did too.



4.) Your best point and I feel it is here that millions of arguments have arisen since I feel the Declaration is paradoxical in the sense that it basically says, "Don't tread on me, but if someone treads on you, it is my OBLIGATION to help you kick there ass."



5.) Perhaps not complete disregard as we send billions of foreign aid to all of these countries... Saudi Arabia is a big one. Not everybody in the world deserves a subscription to MO, but food, yes. I am also going to respectfully disagree in that I feel it was blind faith in ideas that brought us here... Simple abstractions of god, good, and evil... There is nothing more powerful than an idea.



Again, no worries, and next time I'd defend your right to tell me I'm full of sh*t all over again... Or anybody else for that matter... As you said, it is a *mostly* free country... Peace, sc











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Old 12-05-2002, 08:55 AM   #108
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Right on... You have stated it much more eloquently than I could/did... You get three "ataboys!" compliments of me...



Ataboy!



Ataboy!



Ataboy!



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Old 12-05-2002, 10:15 AM   #109
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You're obviously not looking hard enough, or perhaps not at all. Tom Daschle gets nearly as much press time as the President. Pat Buchanan has come out against war with Iraq. Republican congressman Ron Paul is against the war. I have read several conservative columnists reject war with Iraq also.



Furthermore, I don't see Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings, or Dan Rather being cheerleaders for George Bush or the war on Iraq. Frankly, they seem quite antagonistic (perhaps rightly so in this case.) Take your blinders off.
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Old 12-05-2002, 02:07 PM   #110
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it is also true that more educated regions of the country, with a greater population of college graduates and general literacy, tend to vote democrat. that accounts for both coasts. the midwest and south, with less education and literacy, voted for the bush-meister.
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