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Old 10-29-2002, 06:59 AM   #211
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Default Re: Not so fast...

Yes I have ridden an RC51 , Honda Shadow, and a Harley Sportser. I rode the Cyclone for 2 hours, RC51 for 30 min, Shadow for 1 hr and Sportser for an 2 hours. I have to say the RC51 and Shadow impressed me most. But to be honest I prefer the screaming sound of the inline 4 over the sewing machine like twins. The RC51 had after market pipes which sound cool. The Cyclone was cool it seemed like you could set in one gear all day. But the fit and finish was down. i..e the airbox was funky.

I haven't rode the Bolt or Lightening yet. I plan to just to be better informed .
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Old 10-29-2002, 07:06 AM   #212
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Default Re: The Nays have it Grandpa.

You finally make a good argument! Nothing about motorcycling is rational -- if you prefer the scream of a 4, more power to you. Enjoy it! Others prefer the feel/sound of a twin. Still others want a little of both worlds.



In the US, (as many others have noted) there is very little rational about owning a motorcycle. Very few people use their motorcycle as primary transportation (I know there are exceptions, but on average, most people don't use their motorcycle for everthing). When it comes to passions, there may be little perceived difference between $8500 and $10,000, especially if you have the financial means. Me? My wife and I own less expensive cars than we could afford in order to subsidize our hobbies.



So I don't care about price/performance. I care about the grin factor. This is the first post you have made in a long time that demonstrates the importance of the visceral appeal.
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Old 10-29-2002, 07:16 AM   #213
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Default Re: The Nays have it Grandpa.

I'm going to have to agree with Eric. I think we've had a breakthrough with you KPaul!



Speaking of sounds, I was at a bike show and that company in Oregon that re-manufactures Norton Commando 850s was there. The guy fired one of those babies up and the hair stood up on the back of my neck! I had to have it! Of course it's about 25 grand so I'll have to pass until I finish paying for the new Harley coming my way but I can dream can't I?
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Old 10-29-2002, 12:31 PM   #214
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Default Re: Reader Feedback: XB9S Lightning

Sarnali: I love the Triple. It Has everything I want (except vtwin rumble). The poweband is so smooth and linear and the available torque off-throttle still brings me to the point of where I sound like a giddy school girl when I let it run! Handling is very tight too so I highly recommend getting one.



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Old 10-29-2002, 12:34 PM   #215
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As to the Therapist's identity, His name is Dr. Seymour Twistees, PhD. He practices anywhere there are tight, winding roads. He'd be glad to work you in. If he's booked up, I'd suggest looking up Dr. Bodacious Wheelie
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Old 10-29-2002, 02:43 PM   #216
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Thanks -- now I gotta see how I can get Blue Cross to pay for the prescription!
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Old 10-29-2002, 05:55 PM   #217
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Default OK guys I give price/performance is stupid ....don't tell longride.

Ok you guys I hear you. My wife reminded me how stupid price/performance ratio is on a motorcycle. Keep in mind valve adjustments $454 every 7500 miles , tires $400 ever 7500 miles, oil change $100 every 3000 miles, $80 a month for insurance etc. So the difference between a Buell and Ninja really comes down to preference etc. Ninja may be cheaper intially but if I put on 8000 miles a year (which is what I did last year) the Buell catches up given no valve adjustments and oil changes every 5000 miles. And like you guys said motorcycles are really discretionary income items.
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Old 10-29-2002, 06:01 PM   #218
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Default Price/Performance Ratio Revisted. KPaul does it again (retraction)

My wife reminded me how stupid a price/performance ratio is on a motorcycle. Keep in mind, for my Ninja, valve adjustments $454 every 7500 miles , tires $400 ever 7500 miles, oil change $100 every 3000 miles, $80 a month for insurance etc. So the difference between a Buell and Ninja really comes down to preference etc. Ninja may be cheaper intially but if I put on 8000 miles a year (which is what I did last year) the Buell catches up given no valve adjustments and oil changes every 5000 miles. And like you guys said motorcycles are really discretionary income items. So maybe Eric Buell and Burns are not that far off.
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Old 10-29-2002, 06:07 PM   #219
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This months issue of Bike has a CD that has bike sounds on it. It has a Norton rotary racer on it, Interceptor, Ducati, Harley etc.
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Old 10-29-2002, 06:16 PM   #220
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Sounds like the surround yourself with yes man thing going on over there. Cook tends to not differ much from Boehms line. No danger of surrounding yourself here with yes men.

I agree Motorcyclist looks cheaper. I like the English mag Bike very pretty. Although I don't understand every thing they write
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