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Old 09-29-2002, 08:47 PM   #251
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Default Re: Who said we needed an alternative?

Maybe we did spend a lot of money on SDI, and military buildup in general during the 80's, but I think it helped to speed the russian and eastern block collapse. I do agree with the third party notion though.
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Old 09-30-2002, 06:10 AM   #252
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Welcome to the fold (new SV owner).
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Old 09-30-2002, 06:26 AM   #253
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No, it's like seeing grafiti spray-painted on the side of my apartment building and saying "I don't like that", and listening to some idiots say, "Shut up, man, I like it".
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Old 09-30-2002, 10:42 AM   #254
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The problem is not that the off-topic rants are so awful (although the last one was pretty stupid); the problem is that John is wasting valuable bike review time writing them. If we were getting 5 bike reviews a week, I would simply avoid the infrequent rants as you suggest without complaint. However, when I keep checking in every day for a new bike review and all I get is a lousy rant, its pretty disappointing.
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Old 09-30-2002, 01:19 PM   #255
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Thank you for the tip. It does appear to have excellent content. By the way, you may be happier with the $12 subscription; that's all I have and I do not seem to see too many adds. I hope MO gets the message about increasing bike review content. I love their bike reviews and would hate to lose this site.
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Old 09-30-2002, 04:12 PM   #256
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Default Re:Ah, the I haven't heard it so it must not be true argument.

Just to clear up a misconception, I am NOT a product of our public education system, having spent my elementary, high school and the first 2 years of my university education in conservative, church-run schools. I have had a couple of history and political science courses along the way -- and just as a side note, most of my professors were self-identified Republicans. I also have read several books, at least 2 or 3 that didn't even have pictures. I also have spent a fair amount of time living in Europe, where I was acquainted with a number of Germans who lived through that period.



I guess if you would like to get into a "my **** is bigger than yours" sort of arguement, I could match SATs, LSATs, university GPAs, reading lists or IQs, but I really do not feel like going there.



Since you are obviously better educated and better informed than I am, perhaps you can cite a couple of recognized authorities who agree with your assertion that the Nazis were, in fact, "socialists" as that term is normally used. Or absent that, give me your definition of "socialism" (preferably citing the authority for that definition) and point me to concrete examples of how their party platform and/or their policies fit that definition.







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Old 09-30-2002, 04:41 PM   #257
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To get back to the beginning of this thread -- lets see where we have taken this.



The beginning of this French Connection was as follows: The sausage king stated "Imagine a world where Tom Daschle got the government he wanted.....how would that differ in any significant way from a socialist government?"



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"soon it would suck just like France, where you drive as fast as you want, eat great food, and have a month off every year. yes it would suck! "



What I would like to understand how their (the French) alleged idolotry (?!), cowardice ("surrender monkeys") or dietary preferences (cheese eaters, snail slurpers) has anything to do with whether our adopting any elements of system would be better or worse than what we now have. Or how it is in any way significant whether I am a produce of our public education system, whether I am a dolt, or whether I am sadly uninformed about the fact that the Nazis were in fact socialists.



For what it is worth, I have lived for 5 years in western Europe (mostly Switzerland) and I now live in the US BECAUSE I CHOSE TO DO SO. I am not in any way suggesting that we convert to the French system (whatever that is) -- there are lots of things to criticise in their system as well (their concept of speed limits I DO endorse, however).









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Old 09-30-2002, 09:07 PM   #258
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No, it's more like some graffiti sprayed on a canvas in a contemporary art exhibit, with you myopic people griping that it doesn't belong in the exhibit - just because YOU don't like it. The only idiocy I see is your view that the world should meet your needs, on your terms. It's an article in a magazine, intruderman - if you don't like it, don't read it. As for the thinly veiled implication that I'm an idiot, your twisted logic speaks for itself.
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Old 09-30-2002, 09:14 PM   #259
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SS, you make a more worthy point than intruderman, and I too have been disappointed on several occasions with the lack of new content related to bikes. However, JB already addressed the issue of "wasting time" writing this column. The only thing it took away from was Johnny's monkey spanking time.
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Old 10-01-2002, 10:50 AM   #260
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