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SRMark · 09-04-2002, 04:21 AM

I am really glad that I skipped breakfast today. Jumpin' Christ will somebody slap the design department at BMW. What freakish cult, what lunatic demographic is BMW trying to hit with this thing. Good luck guys and gals at BMW; thanfully for you, it's a big country over here.

mconlon · 09-04-2002, 04:26 AM

I thought Yamaha was nuts when they came out with their cruiser with bags and that Honda's Valkyrie touring bike was... well, I mean, what's the point, they already make Goldwings, right? Now I actually don't mind the BMW standard cruiser--its nice to see something different in that copy-cat category--but this?!?!?!? This is an abomination! Same thing as Honda, only worse: they make some of the best touring bikes in the world, why would they want to make a dumbed down version out of their cruiser?

Whatever. Not for me, that's for sure....

mcjunkie · 09-04-2002, 04:32 AM

BMW mystique be dammed.. here's what you get:

A funky-looking underpowered touring rig w/ a ridiculously small 4.5 gal tank-- for $16.5k??

I know The Motor Co. does the same thing, but at least Electra Glides and Road Kings look cool.

Zapata · 09-04-2002, 04:33 AM

Comandante Gabe --

Lei su mensaje y me diverti mucho. Contigo estoy de acuerdo -- que moto tan fea! Debe ser la culpa de las drogas....

rsheidler · 09-04-2002, 05:03 AM

Great Post!

I think it explains a great deal about some of the more recent designs coming out of Munchen. Note that this does not appear to be limited to the Motorad Division, as several recent examples from the Auto Division will suggest (the new 7 Series and the new Z? -- whatever the Z3 replacement is called are prime examples).

dwr461 · 09-04-2002, 05:16 AM

I have to admit that when I first saw this bike, I thought the headlights look oddly familiar. Now I know where I've seen them before, the Discovery Channel.

Dave

akcarlson · 09-04-2002, 05:29 AM

Good point. BMW seems to be going out of their way to ugly-up a good portion of their lineup. I'm glad the 5-series and the 3-series were reworked earlier--at least they'll be saved from uglification for a while.

Fortunately, the other Germans seem insulated from this trend. Except for the Cayenne. And the new SL.

Haird · 09-04-2002, 05:30 AM

No, this is cool. Really, really cool. Really.

santambrogio · 09-04-2002, 06:34 AM

BMW design:

Chris Bangle on the 7 and the Z4 and David Robb on the bikes. Both Americans and graduates from Art Center, Pasadena, CA.

Mr. Bangle has been talking profusely on his design theories on the 7 and the 'flame cut' Z4. He has been flamed profusely on rec.autos.bmw.

David Robb is striving for a similar fate. This crusier and the 650cc city bike are difficult on the eye.

morthrane · 09-04-2002, 06:41 AM

My god, its a deep ocean crustacean come to haunt the backroads!

09-04-2002, 04:21 AM	#21
SRMark Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,465	Re: BMW R1200CL Reader Feedback I am really glad that I skipped breakfast today. Jumpin' Christ will somebody slap the design department at BMW. What freakish cult, what lunatic demographic is BMW trying to hit with this thing. Good luck guys and gals at BMW; thanfully for you, it's a big country over here.

09-04-2002, 04:26 AM	#22
mconlon Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 145	Re: BMW R1200CL Reader Feedback I thought Yamaha was nuts when they came out with their cruiser with bags and that Honda's Valkyrie touring bike was... well, I mean, what's the point, they already make Goldwings, right? Now I actually don't mind the BMW standard cruiser--its nice to see something different in that copy-cat category--but this?!?!?!? This is an abomination! Same thing as Honda, only worse: they make some of the best touring bikes in the world, why would they want to make a dumbed down version out of their cruiser? Whatever. Not for me, that's for sure....

09-04-2002, 04:32 AM	#23
mcjunkie Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 58	bottom line. BMW mystique be dammed.. here's what you get: A funky-looking underpowered touring rig w/ a ridiculously small 4.5 gal tank-- for $16.5k?? I know The Motor Co. does the same thing, but at least Electra Glides and Road Kings look cool.

09-04-2002, 04:33 AM	#24
Zapata Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 18	Re: Psychedellic Drug Ring Uncovered In Spandau Factory Comandante Gabe -- Lei su mensaje y me diverti mucho. Contigo estoy de acuerdo -- que moto tan fea! Debe ser la culpa de las drogas....

09-04-2002, 05:03 AM	#25
rsheidler Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,459	Re: Psychedellic Drug Ring Uncovered In Spandau Factory Great Post! I think it explains a great deal about some of the more recent designs coming out of Munchen. Note that this does not appear to be limited to the Motorad Division, as several recent examples from the Auto Division will suggest (the new 7 Series and the new Z? -- whatever the Z3 replacement is called are prime examples).

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09-04-2002, 05:16 AM	#26
dwr461 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 246	Re: BMW R1200CL Reader Feedback I have to admit that when I first saw this bike, I thought the headlights look oddly familiar. Now I know where I've seen them before, the Discovery Channel. Dave

09-04-2002, 05:29 AM	#27
akcarlson Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 110	Ugly Bimmers Good point. BMW seems to be going out of their way to ugly-up a good portion of their lineup. I'm glad the 5-series and the 3-series were reworked earlier--at least they'll be saved from uglification for a while. Fortunately, the other Germans seem insulated from this trend. Except for the Cayenne. And the new SL.

09-04-2002, 05:30 AM	#28
Haird Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 270	Re: bottom line. No, this is cool. Really, really cool. Really.

09-04-2002, 06:34 AM	#29
santambrogio Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 13	BMW Design BMW design: Chris Bangle on the 7 and the Z4 and David Robb on the bikes. Both Americans and graduates from Art Center, Pasadena, CA. Mr. Bangle has been talking profusely on his design theories on the 7 and the 'flame cut' Z4. He has been flamed profusely on rec.autos.bmw. David Robb is striving for a similar fate. This crusier and the 650cc city bike are difficult on the eye.

09-04-2002, 06:41 AM	#30
morthrane Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 8	Re: BMW R1200CL Reader Feedback My god, its a deep ocean crustacean come to haunt the backroads!