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Old 08-27-2002, 04:25 AM   #11
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Default Re: Shadow 750 vs 883R Reader Feedback

Here is a portion of the New Bike listing from a prominent Pittsburgh dealer. Hardly MSRP.



2003 FLHT Standard Black $21,250.09

2003 FLHTCUI Ultra Gunmetal $26,564.65

2003 FXSTB Night Train Gunmetal $21,276.00

2003 FXSTSI Springer Black $23,488.57

2003 FXSTI Standard Black $19,865.55

2003 XLH1200 Standard Gunmetal $12,414.26

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Old 08-27-2002, 04:34 AM   #12
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A friend gave me his broken, 5000 mile, 1995 Virago 535. This is very similar, enginewise, to the baby Star.



It is a total POS. I've got the engine apart and am amazed at the amount of wear and overall poor design and materials. I tore down my severely abused 1990 Honda Hawk (which has 20k miles, >1000 of that ona race track) and found far less wear.



The Yam might look good and ride nicely, but the Virago in my garage sez stay away from old design Yamahas.
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Old 08-27-2002, 04:52 AM   #13
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I'm not sure that the Shadow 750 and an HD 883 sportster are really comparable; after all, one is a small boulevard cruiser, the other is a standard from a 45 year old sport heritage, although they are both probably stepping stones to the larger cruisers made by their parent companies.

I would be stunned if the Harley didn't handle better than the Shadow; it was designed to accomplish a different task. Perhaps a better comparison would be the 883 with an SV650, or compare a sportster 1200 with a VTR or a TL...
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Old 08-27-2002, 04:56 AM   #14
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As I understand it, there are no laws that regulate pricing from the dealership. If a dealer wants to try and sell a bike way over MSRP, the most HD HQ can do is just that..."frown." If demand in an area is high enough, local dealers will charge more. I don't agree with it, and I salute those who avoid buying at such bloated rates.
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Old 08-27-2002, 05:15 AM   #15
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My brand new '99 Sportster blew both rockerbox gaskets - twice - with in 6,000 miles. I hope the '02/'03 units are fixed.



How did you like the vibration on the Sportster at 70 MPH? Riding the Sportster on the freeway would rattle the tail light to death. Eight bulbs in under 500 miles. My dealer said I rode it to hard...



It sure got the looks from the chicks...



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Old 08-27-2002, 05:17 AM   #16
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You got that right!!!!!!!!



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Old 08-27-2002, 05:18 AM   #17
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Similar power curves according to the dyno chart, so let's see some Shadows allowed to run in the 883 dirt track events, (just a few modifications required). You hearing this AMA, the races at Sedalia were quite the snoozer for $24.
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Old 08-27-2002, 05:18 AM   #18
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Sure....I only lost a few thousand on my Sportster after less than one year....! What a deal!



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Old 08-27-2002, 05:32 AM   #19
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Default Subcription = free pass to whine

I wonder if people will ever stop griping about the subscription price.

For the price of a 12-pack you get a daily dose of scoots at work. Hell...maybe cycleworld has fancier pictures but I can't squish it inbetween excel spreadsheets and I always read the whole damn thing the first night and leave myself nothing else until next week.



The moneys spent...it wasn't that much...JohnyB is fun....I get to look at bikes.
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Old 08-27-2002, 05:33 AM   #20
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If I remember correctly, the Hondas used to run the flat track circuit. Used to kick the proverbial Harley ass to.



It's a pretty standard pattern for any Harley related racing. The only way to make TheMoCo competetive is to remove all other makes from the mix.



ie. AHDRA, etc.
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