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Old 08-20-2002, 05:13 AM   #91
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Actually it's proven that no matter what gear you have, it's safer to be in a car. Why don't you just do that? Sounds like riding is way too dangerous for you. It will catch up to you. Sheesh.
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Old 08-20-2002, 05:16 AM   #92
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If you think about it, your poster should have read "Drag racing motorcycles is an idiotic and unsafe thing to do, and should be banned". Motorcycles in general should be banned, especially those high-tech import ones. Don't you agree?
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Old 08-20-2002, 05:18 AM   #93
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Ever think that 95% of the public sees you as the bottom of the gene pool for riding a motorcycle in the first place?
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Old 08-20-2002, 05:20 AM   #94
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I suggest you take the argument even further. Why is it a drain on society? What part of the constitution mandated the Social Security system? How is taking my money and giving it to others justified? And, to keep it all in perspective, many people feel that they are doing a social good by paying money into SS, sort of like charity. Charity is when you give what you want to support a specific cause or person. A mugging is when money is taken from you without consent and spent on things you wouldn't spend it on otherwise.
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Old 08-20-2002, 05:20 AM   #95
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the congress is the Senate + the House. Both can introduce laws which must then be approved by the other. If someone sees fit to challenge these laws on a constitutional basis, the _might_ be heard by the supreme court (if the supremes deam it worth hearing). The rest of the judicial branch does make judgements on the laws, you're correct. The Executive branch is responsible for execution of the laws passed, although the President as head of the executive branch and a leader of his party has some level of influence on what laws get passed, proposed, and stalled out in commitee.



Yes, the senate is supposed to have a longer view, and actually a more patrician view - it's harder to get into the senate. Whether six years is sufficiently longer is another question. Not that I'm in favor of a 'House of Lords' type thing where you're in for life!



One thing to remember is that our fondling fathers had in mind that our senators and representatives would be from the landed intelligencia - folks like themselves - who could be trusted to make long term decisions in view of what would be best for the country, and could be trusted to discuss the issues like gentlement (that'd be by dueling, for fans of Alex Hamilton).



One of our current problems is that instead of that ideal, utopian (remember, that means 'nowhere' translated literally) vision, we've got a bunch of muckraking lawyers. Our own damn fault - we keep voting them in, and we allowed an environment where you've gotta be a power hungry, doubledealing scumbag (lechery is just a bonus that we get with the package) to even want to serve your country in this way (not that they're all bad - it just looks that way sometimes).



Of course, our greatest strength as a country is that I'm free to say this. Which is why I'm more worried about the president of Nike not being allowed to defend his company's labor practices because it's 'commercial speach' than about whether there is a law forcing me to do what an intelligent person will do anyway. Not that I like that law - I think we should let stupid people extinguish themselves in the name of darwin. Maybe make the stunterboys not wear helments.
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Old 08-20-2002, 05:22 AM   #96
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No, just wait for them to die. Cell-phone abusers are a different case, because they can kill others. For them I am in favor of preemptive action.
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Old 08-20-2002, 05:23 AM   #97
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Default For once I agree with Lord Burns.

[*]I am a member of the AMA but because of its anti-helmet law stance I will probably will not renew my membership.
[*]The AMA loses all credibility with the non-riding public when it opposes helmet laws
[*]Anti-helmet supporters are usually baby boomers who didn't grow up wearing helmets for everthing. Us Gen Xers have a helmet for everything skate boarding, skates, kayaking, bicycling, skiing, and snow boarding. So its no big deal for us. Maybe common sense skips generations
[*]I would go even farther and mandate full faced helmets, gloves, boots, and jacket see below



In David Houghs book Proficient Motorcyling, he mentions on page 28 a German Study on head injuries. The study by Dietmar Otte and Gunter Fleton was published in the The Proceedings of the 1991 International Motorcyle Conference. If you use a half helment (skull cap) i.e. no ear and face coverage, You only protect yourself from 38.6 % of the impacts to the head. Not very good odds I say.



P.S. I am a conservative Republican but support helmet laws because of the economics of the situation i.e. paying hospital bills for dorks who don't wear full face helmets.

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Old 08-20-2002, 05:26 AM   #98
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I second that. Very funny and good point. All rhetoric aside, as you fly across the hood of that Lincoln Navigator that has just made a left in front of you, who is going to care how cool your little half helmet looks. Probably not you as the macadam comes flying up at your face at 60mph. Operating any motorcycle is serious business with inherent risks and the guys in t-shirts and gutted beanies are showing up unprepared. There is nothing cool about that.
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Old 08-20-2002, 05:26 AM   #99
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That's funny.



My wife would probably have me commited !!!





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Old 08-20-2002, 05:28 AM   #100
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No, Abe Froman is correct. The point of electing representatives, as opposed to a full vote on every issue, is because those officials are supposed to represent the people, but keep an eye on the big picture (i.e. so that majority doesn't always rule). In theory at least (a theory made in a far different political environment).



The Supreme Court definitely provides checks and balances on this process, but Abe has the representative theory correct.
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