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Old 07-02-2002, 09:53 AM   #1
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nah.......i'll take the speed triple, thanks all the same.
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Old 07-02-2002, 10:14 AM   #2
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How about a set of muy adjustable clipons (like those ones TwoBros has), mounted below the tripleclamps. That way, one could loosen some allen bolts and go from racer crouch to sit up hooligan.



Also, a punched out engine, offering as much normal power, plus more midrange? No need to stay at the 600cc limit on a hooligan.



Or, Triumph could really show some massive cojones and pre-plumb it for NOS. OEM turbo option maybe?
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Old 07-02-2002, 10:37 AM   #3
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I know they are in different market segments, but I'd have to consider an FZ1 or 919 for not much more money. I think the Speed Four would sell better for about $500 less. I like the uniqueness of the Triumph, but am not sure if the price is justified given the track record of the TT600.

Have the Japanese done any market research on the feasibility of producing streetfighter 600s? For a commuter/hooligan bike, I would strongly consider a naked R6 or F4i with unique streetfighter looks priced in the low to mid $7k range.
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Old 07-02-2002, 10:52 AM   #4
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I like the Speed Triple better also. Not being worth the money is an asset for these bikes. If they were extremely successful on the sales floor, we would see 4 Japanese copies for 1,000 less and basically ruin the uniqueness of this genre. The Euros invented this type of bike so I like to see them run with the design.
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Old 07-02-2002, 11:10 AM   #5
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Excellent point, longride. I've always owned unique bikes (except Ducati is really not that unique anymore...), but I am always tempted to buy Japanese for the value, reliability and low maintenance costs. You're right, though - I can't have my cake and eat it too. Then again, there's always MZ.
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Old 07-02-2002, 11:31 AM   #6
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It's still ugly, but I say that about a lot of overdone streetfighters, so maybe it's me.



And just why don't we get the Fazer 600, anyway?
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Old 07-02-2002, 11:42 AM   #7
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Old 07-02-2002, 11:52 AM   #8
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I'm still shopping around for my first bike, and here is my new list and reasons for:



Honda F4i : all around goodness and racer looks

Ducati 750s : it's a ducati, it's a monster, with Senna colors (I'm an F1 nut)

Honda 919 : same peak power as the monster S4, 900rr motor, for less than 8k!

Triumph S4 : Triumph name, streetfighter looks, $500 less than 919.



But I'll wait to hear how reliable the Triumph is. Has Triumph overcome their gremlins?
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Old 07-02-2002, 12:05 PM   #9
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The chassis it top notch on the TT, as are the brakes and top end....it's the low and midrange power that needs a bit of boost to make it competitive. The FI kinks have allegedly been worked out also.



As for 600cc nakeds, the Euros get the Hornet 600 from Honda (just like the 919 here...over there the 919 is the Hornet 900) and the Fazer 600 (FZ-1 = Fazer 1000). They're out there, just not in North America.



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Old 07-02-2002, 01:21 PM   #10
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But how would it do against the Bulldog? Or the Buell? How about a SV650 comparo?
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